Buhner dosage after stopping?

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aphysicalwreck
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   Posted 1/24/2018 5:57 AM (GMT -6)   
I was up to 19 drops of cats claw and Japanese knotweed. 5 drops of andrographis. I stopped for about 3 to 4 weeks. I decided to start again. How much should I start up with?

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   Posted 1/24/2018 8:46 AM (GMT -6)   
I am in same boat, as we just restarted herbals again after a break.

If it is a short break, like few days, I usually do half of their prior dose and then go back up rather quickly to where we were at.
If it is longer than that, I start over at one drop and move up from there again, but quicker than what we did originally.

My youngest reacted to three drops, so we are back down to two drops again. He was at five before we took a break. He tends to be very reactive to the herbals we are currently on.
My middle kid hasn't reacted much to reintroducing them so far.

If I were you, I would probably start off at one drop and work up depending how I feel.

Girlie
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   Posted 1/24/2018 11:51 AM (GMT -6)   
aphysicalwreck- how was it the first time?

If it was uneventful...then I'd maybe start with a bit higher - maybe 5 drops of the JK and CC and a couple drops of Andrographis.

But, if you felt it at 1 or 2 drops the first time...then I'd start back at that dose.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
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Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
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PeteZa
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   Posted 1/24/2018 4:13 PM (GMT -6)   
I would start all over again so I would not herx. Herxing is not healthy!!! You may be able to move up more quickly, but make sure the detoxing is being done.

I have not found the life cycle of a spirochete yet. Everything I read is that they are working on it.

aphysicalwreck
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   Posted 1/24/2018 5:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Girlie
Yes. It was pretty uneventful. We were on the same page. I took 5 drops before I saw your reply.

Peteza
I didn't herx before. I seem to never herx. All I know is that I have the worst head pressure that I have ever had. Plus tingling head as usual. My balance feels off too she my legs feel weak. I am literally a mess right now.
I am getting an MRI of the brain tomorrow jusy to make sure there is nothing major going on. I can't live like this anymore. I don't know what to do. Most of the llmd treat with abx. I am afraid of those!!!

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   Posted 1/24/2018 5:11 PM (GMT -6)   
aphysicalwreck said...
Girlie
Yes. It was pretty uneventful. We were on the same page. I took 5 drops before I saw your reply.

Peteza
I didn't herx before. I seem to never herx. All I know is that I have the worst head pressure that I have ever had. Plus tingling head as usual. My balance feels off too she my legs feel weak. I am literally a mess right now.
I am getting an MRI of the brain tomorrow jusy to make sure there is nothing major going on. I can't live like this anymore. I don't know what to do. Most of the llmd treat with abx. I am afraid of those!!!



Don't raise it too quickly!

I have the head pressure, too..and it really ramped up on Babesia treatment.
Good luck with your MRI tomorrow. I've had several...and I don't mind them at all...lol.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

aphysicalwreck
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   Posted 1/24/2018 5:27 PM (GMT -6)   
Girlie.
Lol. Me too. I have had several also. PATHETIC!!! So your treatment made the pressure worse? Is the head pressure babesia?

Girlie
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   Posted 1/24/2018 6:06 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm thinking it is Babesia.

I never had bad head pressure when I first started treating with lyme antibiotics....and then I think it ramped up some on Bart abx.

But, then when I took the Mepron for babs - it was really bad...I thought my eyes were gonna pop out of my head and my head would explode! (okay - slight exaggeration)

I think it is from babesia. (I did take some Artemisinin when treating bart...so maybe it was hitting the Babesia then, too)

I think in total - head and spine mri's - I've had 5 or 6. Also some x-rays, a few ultrasounds, one ct scan...
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi
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