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cherylfelice
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   Posted 1/26/2018 12:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Pleas try to make sense of this for me.....about a week ago, I started having pain in my chin and left jaw (thought I was having a heart attack because it started after a huge fight with my husband). In t he days after, the pain moved to one side of my sinuses, then to the other. Then I thought maybe it was my upper left molar. Then my left ear felt kind of achy. The tooth of concern is directly next to the site where my back molar was extracted about 10 years ago (after two failed root canals).

After about 4 days I realized, yes definitely tooth pain! The pain is like 100x worse while sleeping. Also all of my front teeth feel kind of sore and the palate in front feels inflammed.

So, I went to the dentist. She found a sticky spot and said there was a tiny cavity (but not enough to cause so much pain. She thought maybe a cracked tooth...took an xray and couldn't see anything. She then sent me to the Endodontist, who took a Cone Beam CAT scan of the tooth. He did not find infection, nor did he find an obvious fracture. The endodontist wanted to do a root canal anyway (of course he did...no way I'm gonna do that!).

My dentist is convinced the tooth is cracked low down and it just isn't showing up on either xray and that I will wind up having the tooth pulled...oy!

It may also be relevant that I have a history of chronic congestion in my left ear (only). Also, I grind my teeth at night and don't always wear my mouthguard.

Thanks for reading my saga....you probably can guess my question....Could this be all lyme related???!!
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magoo2
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   Posted 1/26/2018 12:51 PM (GMT -6)   
chicken or egg-what comes first doesn't really matter. Infection is a major health issue and needs to get handled. and frankly opinions very.
FYI-sometimes a cheap way to see infection is to get a thermogrophy-usually cost less than 100.
Real easy-infection will show as hotter-easy way to checl your dental and sinus-I dit it yesterday

cherylfelice
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   Posted 1/26/2018 1:23 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm mostly concerned about the possible fracture (prob from grinding). I assume thermography will not show that?
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Tried: Zhang (18 months), Cowden (3 months), LDI( 3months), UVLrx (3 months), now assortment of herbs, homeopathy, vitamins and detox.

The Dude Abides
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   Posted 1/26/2018 1:56 PM (GMT -6)   
I cracked a molar, several months ago, eating a LĂ„RABAR. (I highly recommend the Apple Pie flavor, but beware of the almonds!) I knew it was cracked, because chewing would sometimes cause pain. It was a very fine, hairline crack that did show on X-ray - but, was very slight.

Do you have any pain when chewing?

Here's a link to search for ozone practitioners, should you decide to explore that route:

oxygenhealingtherapies.com/my_ozone_doctor.com.html


SIDE NOTE: I had a root canal, years ago, that required five trips to two Dentists - and, I still had pain. I suffered with that for another nine years, before having the tooth extracted by a Biological Dentist.

If I could go back in time, I would re-evaluate and try to avoid the root canal entirely. Otherwise, rather than having the root canal (and, assuming I exhausted all other resources), I would have had the tooth extracted. The Dentist drilled through an amalgam filling to perform the root canal. I'm STILL angry at him for doing so and myself for not knowing better at the time.

After the root canal tooth was extracted, by Biological Dentist replaced all my amalgam fillings with composites.

cherylfelice
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   Posted 1/26/2018 2:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Tku. My regular dentist recovered from lyme and is holistic. She uses ozone (if you pay extra for it).

My issue is that she thinks the crack is low down, which almost always requires extraction. The other very significant issue is that I also had a very bad experience with two failed root canals and then ultimately lost the tooth to extraction. THIS TOOTH IS RIGHT NEXT TO THAT which would leave my bsically toothless in that quadrant...NOT OKAY!!!!

Yes, I have pain when chewing and almost no pain the rest of the time (except is tarts aching while attempting to sleep at night..(which "smells" like lyme to me....). Can you have pain from chewing that is NOT from a crack?

That's absolutely awful btw that any dentist would drill right through amalgam like that...morons! I suppose it's not that much worse than what mine did, which was to just drill it out when I had a bigger cavity (and replaced with white...but did nothing to protect me (or her) from the mercury flying around the room!)
Lyme, Bartonella, Rocky Mtn Spotted Fever, Mycoplasma, EBV, Coxsackie B, Chlamydia Pnemoniae, Parvo, Mold
Tried: Zhang (18 months), Cowden (3 months), LDI( 3months), UVLrx (3 months), now assortment of herbs, homeopathy, vitamins and detox.

Lapis_29
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   Posted 1/26/2018 2:34 PM (GMT -6)   
try thieves essential oil.

put a drop on your toothpaste when you brush, then also a drop or 2 with oil pulling.



Also get some pure clove oil and apply throughout the day.

all these thing will really help.

/wellnessmama.com/7866/oil-pulling/

cherylfelice
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   Posted 1/26/2018 2:43 PM (GMT -6)   
tku...will try these!
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acarined
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   Posted 1/26/2018 2:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Gentle neck stretches and being conscious of relaxing the jaw throughout the day can reduce bruxism.

The Dude Abides
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   Posted 1/26/2018 3:07 PM (GMT -6)   
cherylfelice said...
Tku. My regular dentist recovered from lyme and is holistic. She uses ozone (if you pay extra for it).

My issue is that she thinks the crack is low down, which almost always requires extraction. The other very significant issue is that I also had a very bad experience with two failed root canals and then ultimately lost the tooth to extraction. THIS TOOTH IS RIGHT NEXT TO THAT which would leave my bsically toothless in that quadrant...NOT OKAY!!!!

Yes, I have pain when chewing and almost no pain the rest of the time (except is tarts aching while attempting to sleep at night..(which "smells" like lyme to me....). Can you have pain from chewing that is NOT from a crack?

That's absolutely awful btw that any dentist would drill right through amalgam like that...morons! I suppose it's not that much worse than what mine did, which was to just drill it out when I had a bigger cavity (and replaced with white...but did nothing to protect me (or her) from the mercury flying around the room!)


I would pay extra for the ozone, if it's within your budget. Also, I agree with what Lapis_29 wrote.

As for whether or not tooth pain can exist when chewing and it NOT be caused by a crack, I'm sorry to say that I don't know. I would discuss with your Dentist and perhaps even call another Biological Dentist for a second opinion. When I cracked my tooth, I knew what it was. It was instant and painful. The result of a stupid almond shell fragment.

When I had my root canal tooth extracted, I got a bridge to replace the gap. IF you end-up determining your problematic tooth is cracked and that extraction is the only choice, perhaps you can get a bridge for the two missing teeth. Otherwise, an implant is an option, though I would be sure to read the Pros and Cons of that, since it would entail anchoring metal into your bone. I don't know much about it, but have read a few blurbs about the compatibility of certain metals in the mouth. I'm not sure if that has to do more with the pH of the mouth or more about other things.

I agree with you about our Dentists drilling our amalgam fillings. Like your Dentist, mine also didn't use any sort of remediation equipment. Obviously, if they would have known better, they would have done better, because they wouldn't have wanted to be poisoned, either. It wasn't long after my fiasco that I started having anxiety issues, and, shortly thereafter, problems with fatigue. I wouldn't be surprised if those were related to having my amalgam drilled.

Add a few drops of mercury to a large pond or small lake and the EPA will close it and contamination crews will arrive. But, it's perfectly fine to place mercury in our mouths - for decades. Makes perfect sense.

magoo2
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   Posted 1/26/2018 3:20 PM (GMT -6)   
My dentist always says say the patient not the tooth!
Ozone injections may work-I would try three or four and see if anything gets better

The Dude Abides
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   Posted 1/26/2018 3:28 PM (GMT -6)   
"Save the patient, not the tooth!" hahaha - I like your dentist!

cherylfelice
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   Posted 1/26/2018 3:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Strangely, my holistic dentist didn't even suggest the ozone and I know she uses it for certain things.

I have set up an appt next week with another integrative dentist (actually another endodontist) who will hopefully be able to figure something out from the CAT scan.

I am praying that everything is just inflammed from too much night grinding and me not wearing my guard and/or activation of some spirochetes in my face (eww)
Lyme, Bartonella, Rocky Mtn Spotted Fever, Mycoplasma, EBV, Coxsackie B, Chlamydia Pnemoniae, Parvo, Mold
Tried: Zhang (18 months), Cowden (3 months), LDI( 3months), UVLrx (3 months), now assortment of herbs, homeopathy, vitamins and detox.

The Dude Abides
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   Posted 1/26/2018 4:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Good luck next week! Give yourself permission to relax, until you have more facts. Being concerned about what "might" be the issue won't do you much good! Easier said than done, I know. (I'm told I sometimes GIVE good advice, but don't always TAKE the same advice. smile) And, perhaps ask your husband to be extra supportive, so you can have some much-deserved relaxation.
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