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NicHostetler
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   Posted 1/26/2018 2:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Ok, so I'd really like everyone's opinions on my current situation.

I am a business analyst/software developer and my company is planning on sending me (alone) to Italy for two weeks.

Last year in November I went to Germany with three others for just a week and was sooo ready to be back.

Last week I went to Oklahoma City for a week and did OK.. but must've gotten the flu while traveling because I have had it and been out of work all week this week.

I saw my LLMD at the beginning of the month and she loves traveling and thinks I should go, and took me off all meds until the middle of February.

Anyway, my boss knows that I have Lyme and that it's very up and down so she said she wants to meet with me on Monday to discuss the "possibility of delaying my departure date".

From this I assume she means that she might let me leave a few days later and return the same time.

I am not necessarily worried about leaving next Thursday, I am not really sure I have a choice.. I am more worried about the fact that 1. I will be alone working 12 hours days and 2. out of the country for 15 days.

I would probably feel more comfortable leaving Thursday and coming back at the end of the following week.. or just try to ask if I can skip it all together and somehow support from home.

What would you do in this situation?

My main current daily sx:
Brain Fog
Dizzyness/Lightheaded
Fatigue
Headaches

Post Edited (NicHostetler) : 1/26/2018 12:27:38 PM (GMT-7)


RedLabel
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   Posted 1/26/2018 2:29 PM (GMT -6)   
It all depends on how bad your symptoms are. Do they tend to get much worse when you work a lot?

I had a similar situation two months ago when I went offshore to an oil platform for 10 days. Working 12 hour days. It went OK.
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The Dude Abides
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   Posted 1/26/2018 2:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Do you REALLY need to be there in person? Or, is it more of a "It'd be nice if I were there" situation?

For me personally, I wouldn't travel anywhere that I didn't absolutely need to. Part of this is I've come to hate flying, given all the TSA nonsense, plus my motion sickness has gotten worse, and, to make things even more fun, I had anxiety attacks on my last two flights. (Surprisingly, at 28,000 ft., they wouldn't let me step out on the wing, in order to get some air.) Those are the main reasons I wouldn't want to travel, but, obviously, those things may not affect you.

I agree with RedLabel's comments.

NicHostetler
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   Posted 1/26/2018 2:53 PM (GMT -6)   
Well, I don't mind flying all that much with my company because they put us in first class. So I pretty much eat then sleep then I'm there.

HOWEVER I am super nervous about going alone. Flying through three different airports two of which are in other countries. I have heard horror stories about the Paris airport. And I am only 24 so I have not really had much experience with flying in other countries other than the Germany trip in November. When I have bad days I can't even go shopping because it is so overwhelming so I can't even imagine being in an airport on days like that.. Then when I get there - renting a car in Venice and driving an hour to my hotel. (the hotel is only 10 mins drive from the company)

I DO get thrown off by the time change though which made my lyme sx flair when I went to Germany. I felt pretty terrible all week.

I wouldn't say I HAVE to be on site, but my manager would probably say otherwise. A couple weeks ago I kind of asked what would happen if I couldn't go and asked if I could support remotely and just stay up during their business hours and she kind of laughed and said "we'd have to figure something out"
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Girlie
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   Posted 1/26/2018 2:58 PM (GMT -6)   
I think if you can support remotely...I'd opt for that.

But, again, it depends on how debilitating your symptoms can be.


I'm going on a trip in about a week's time and just all the planning, and preparing ramped up my nerves a few times.
I wouldn't be going alone ...but my symptoms can get quite bad when they flare...and I haven't travelled via air in several years...so the airports/customs/luggage...all that seems quite daunting to me.

I guess taking someone with you isn't an option.

Are you still taking meds (including Mepron) ? Will you have them in the carry-on with you?
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NicHostetler
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   Posted 1/26/2018 3:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Unfortunately it is not an option for someone to come. We are rolling out software to our locations in 5 countries so we are all assigned a location.

I should also mention that this wont be the only time I will be traveling outside the country for work, but probably the only time I will be alone. We have another rollout in a couple months in Italy, then Oregon and then more in the future but they will be with a group. And hopefully by then I will be better.

I am not taking any meds at the moment, I have been off them for around two weeks now. My LLMD wants me to take a break to let my immune system kick in work for itself while I travel and wait for my DNA Connexions test to come back.

I would say my sx are extremely debilitating when I have bad days. Without the meds though, I feel like I wont have many of those..
Very sick starting around 07/2016
Started treatment 03/2017
Bixain & Cefdinir - 3 months - plateaued
Then Biaxin & Minocycline - 3 months - did not improve
Tinidazole - 500MG 2x a day - 2 weeks
Now taking:
Mepron 5mL 2x a day
Zithromax
Nystatin
Cats Claw - 30 drops 2x a day
Gou Teng - 30 drops 2x a day
CSA - 40 drops 2x a day
Japanese Knotweed - 40 drops 2x a day

goshawk
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   Posted 1/26/2018 3:37 PM (GMT -6)   
I would follow your gut instincts....what are they saying to you.


You said you just got back from trip and thought you may have gotten the flu

You said you couldn't wait to get back

you have active ongoing symptoms

It sounds like you are concerned about the work load and being on that job alone.

your llmd loves to travel but...doesn't mean you have to love traveling


I pretty much work until I drop and past that but its not good. We are sick and need to make sure to get rest.

If you feel the task is too much it would be better to have a plan before you go to address this.

Maybe you could discuss with your boss having additional support from the company

Maybe the hours could be lessened a bit or allowance made for more breaks.

Is it possible for anyone from home to buy a ticket and go with you to help with navigating the airport, meals etc.

Hope this all works out for you , take care, Jo

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   Posted 1/26/2018 3:41 PM (GMT -6)   
NicHostetler said...
Well, I don't mind flying all that much with my company because they put us in first class. So I pretty much eat then sleep then I'm there.

HOWEVER I am super nervous about going alone. Flying through three different airports two of which are in other countries. I have heard horror stories about the Paris airport. And I am only 24 so I have not really had much experience with flying in other countries other than the Germany trip in November. When I have bad days I can't even go shopping because it is so overwhelming so I can't even imagine being in an airport on days like that.. Then when I get there - renting a car in Venice and driving an hour to my hotel. (the hotel is only 10 mins drive from the company)

I DO get thrown off by the time change though which made my lyme sx flair when I went to Germany. I felt pretty terrible all week.

I wouldn't say I HAVE to be on site, but my manager would probably say otherwise. A couple weeks ago I kind of asked what would happen if I couldn't go and asked if I could support remotely and just stay up during their business hours and she kind of laughed and said "we'd have to figure something out"


Oh, to be 24 again. But, know what I now know. smile

Generally, for a younger person who hasn't traveled much, I'd usually encourage them to go. But, given the scenario you outlined, I'd have a sit-down with your manager and explain the things you wrote in the above comment. Most people who don't have Lyme Disease don't really "get it." And, while it's likely beyond your scope of desire to make her Lyme Literate, you can try to educate her a bit. I bet that would probably make her more empathetic and understanding to your concerns. She would see that it's not that you don't WANT to go, you're just concerned about your health AND you want the trip to be successful for all involved. That might allow her to reconsider just how important it is to send someone overseas.

Anyway, you'll have to decide what you think you can or cannot handle. There's no shame in deciding you don't want to take the chance. Could you go and "power through" it? Probably. You're young.

But, from what you wrote about your trip to Germany, it seems there's a good possibility of your feeling "pretty terrible," too. Being there for two weeks working 12-hour days sounds pretty grueling. And, if you're pretty thrown-off (as are many people) by the time change, then what are the odds of you being able to get restorative sleep for those long days?

If you DO go, I suggest going to Target, a Pharmacy, or elsewhere and buying a small container of foam earplugs. Not only will that be helpful on the plane (even in First Class), but it will be VERY helpful in loud, crowded places like airports and restaurants. Even when I wear them, I can still hear most things. For me, they mute the higher frequencies that are more piercing and irritating to my nervous system. In restaurants, I can wear them and still hear my girlfriend across the table. I just have to be careful to respond more quietly than usual, as you know how it is talking to someone wearing headphones.

Also, if you're not accustomed to wearing/carrying them with you already, bring some dark sunglasses. I have a pair of polarized Maui Jim sunglasses that are extremely helpful (along with earplugs) for days when my nervous system is overloaded/hyper-sensitive. My glasses wrap-around a bit on the side, though I wish it were a little more.

In airports, I would look for a Customer Service (or, whatever it might be called) desk and explain that you have a health condition that affects your neurological system, cognition (give me some artistic license, here smile), and musculoskeletal system and you would be grateful for any help getting to your destination. That may be getting to the next gate, to a rental car company, an in-airport restaurant, your hotel, or wherever. In the airport, they will likely assist you, either by wheelchair (don't knock it, it could be very helpful), golf cart, or some other shuttle. They might even be able to assist with your luggage, once you get to your destination.

So, the point is: Ask for help! Get what help you can, in any situation you can. Most people WANT to help others, when they know the other person is struggling. It's unfortunate we don't do this ALL of the time, but that's another topic. Use the resources that are available. They are there for a reason.

Oh, you probably have an iPod, iPhone, or some other portable device that has music. Music is my most favorite tool to help me relax. So, while Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, and Count Basie may not do it for you, bring some soothing, calming music. For ambient music, I like artists like Liquid Mind and Jonn Serrie, among others. Or, an audiobook may be helpful, as it can focus your attention on the story.

Whatever you decide, I wish you luck, my friend. Keep us updated.

Sincerely,
The Dude

Post Edited (The Dude Abides) : 1/26/2018 1:47:47 PM (GMT-7)


pasimoneau
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   Posted 1/26/2018 4:23 PM (GMT -6)   
You should be cognizant of how much the travel and jet lag would impact your ability to perform your job once you've arrived at your destination. You need to listen to what your body is telling you, and how it behaves/performs when it's out of your normal routines. It sounds like your manager is aware of your situation, and how lyme impacts your performance when it flares up. So, they should know that they might be putting you in a situation where you may be seriously impacted.

Other than that, Lyme aside, I'd say you should go. Venice is a fantastic place to wonder around and do some sight-seeing. The food in northern Italy is tremendous.

Don't be afraid of Charles de Galle airport outside of Paris... Yes, it's large, but it's no more confusing to deal with than any other large domestic or international airport. I was there last summer with my family, and had no problems at all getting to/from our flights.

NicHostetler
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   Posted 1/26/2018 6:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Dude and Jo thank you so much for the thoughtful responses it is SO helpful and means so much to me!

Luckily my manager does get it because she has a daughter with an autoimmune disease but still doesn't REALLY get it like we do, obviously.

It's not that we can't do things like this, because I am sure most of us could power through it. But is it worth it to maybe take a setback in treatment because of the stress I'd be putting on myself with traveling and doing a software go live alone? And take the risk of just feeling miserable away from home, family and friends? This is my main concern. Luckily I have all of you no matter where I go! ;)

Like I said, I am so thankful for what you guys have said and I will take all of these ideas to my meeting and let you guys know what I decide.
Very sick starting around 07/2016
Started treatment 03/2017
Bixain & Cefdinir - 3 months - plateaued
Then Biaxin & Minocycline - 3 months - did not improve
Tinidazole - 500MG 2x a day - 2 weeks
Now taking:
Mepron 5mL 2x a day
Zithromax
Nystatin
Cats Claw - 30 drops 2x a day
Gou Teng - 30 drops 2x a day
CSA - 40 drops 2x a day
Japanese Knotweed - 40 drops 2x a day

The Dude Abides
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   Posted 1/26/2018 8:43 PM (GMT -6)   
Happy to help, my friend! I'm glad our comments were helpful. We're in this together!

Two more things to consider:

1. What if the Go-Live doesn't go as planned? Will you need to work more than 12 hours daily?

I have a technology background (not as a Software Developer) and have familiarity with rolling-out new software and/or installing new equipment and finding problems. Years ago, I was a Field Engineer for a healthcare company and installed and repaired CAT scan machines. When those went down, someone was going to be on-site, around-the-clock, until it was fixed! (They were used in trauma centers.) There were a few occasions were I finally had to go home and sleep, while a colleague took-over for me. Or, vice versa. In your case, it doesn't seem you'll have any redundancy - at least, not a live, on-site person.

2. There's no "wrong" decision about going. If you DO go, worst case, it might suck. Perhaps a lot. But, in the end, you will be okay! I think that's something to remember, above all else.

Best always,
The Dude

Post Edited (The Dude Abides) : 1/26/2018 7:31:02 PM (GMT-7)


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   Posted 1/26/2018 9:11 PM (GMT -6)   
The Dude says: "Oh, to be 24 again. But, know what I now know."

Copy that!!!!!!!
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NicHostetler
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   Posted 1/26/2018 9:55 PM (GMT -6)   
The Dude Abides said...
Happy to help, my friend! I'm glad our comments were helpful. We're in this together!

Two more things to consider:

1. What if the Go-Live doesn't go as planned? Will you need to work more than 12 hours daily?

I have a technology background (not as a Software Developer) and have familiarity with rolling-out new software and/or installing new equipment and finding problems. Years ago, I was a Field Engineer for a healthcare company and installed and repaired CAT scan machines. When those went down, someone was going to be on-site, around-the-clock, until it was fixed! (They were used in trauma centers.) There were a few occasions were I finally had to go home and sleep, while a colleague took-over for me. Or, vice versa. In your case, it doesn't seem you'll have any redundancy - at least, not a live, on-site person.

2. There's no "wrong" decision about going. If you DO go, worst case, it might suck. Perhaps a lot. But, in the end, you will be okay! I think that's something to remember, above all else.

Best always,
The Dude


You know what you're talking about! You are exactly correct. If something does not go as planned that means the warehouse isn't shipping out orders which means either the company is losing money or I'm losing my job LOL. So yes, I try not to think about running into issues but it is very possible it could be longer than 12 hour days. Could be shorter too if things go super smooth. But, having tech background, you know how that is!

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   Posted 1/26/2018 10:42 PM (GMT -6)   
I will be your cheerleader no matter what you choose.

Yeah Nic! Yeah Nic!

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   Posted 1/27/2018 12:37 AM (GMT -6)   
NicHostetler said...
You know what you're talking about! You are exactly correct. If something does not go as planned that means the warehouse isn't shipping out orders which means either the company is losing money or I'm losing my job LOL. So yes, I try not to think about running into issues but it is very possible it could be longer than 12 hour days. Could be shorter too if things go super smooth. But, having tech background, you know how that is!


Definitely don't expect the worst or dwell on that possibility! I just wanted to know -- and, if applicable, have you consider -- if working more than 12 hours might be a possibility.

"Plan for the worst, hope for the best!"

If your company has even a decent history of stable releases and smooth roll-outs, then that could reasonably be used as a predictor of things to come.

You know, we have a wide range of people on this forum. I bet there are many other tech folks, too. In a different post, several weeks back, I posed a question about me quitting my job -- would that be crazy. From what I could recall, many said "Yes - definitely crazy!" But, I ended-up quitting anyway.

Maybe we could start our own job search/networking board. Instead of "LinkedIn," we could call it "LymedIn."

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   Posted 1/27/2018 3:03 PM (GMT -6)   
I was in a similar situation, also in IT..

For some reason I have been reluctant to travel, and to leave my prescriptions and supplements. I had a week long work trip to Spain. I did not even want to go visit my nephew in Czech.

In the end I did go, and it was worth it, but glad to be back. I think taking a short break from the meds from time to time isn't bad.

As for logistics, don't worry too much. I flew Spain to Austria and took a bus to Czech and don't know the language. most people speak basic English and google is your friend.

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   Posted 1/27/2018 3:26 PM (GMT -6)   
I love the tips The Dude has above! Create your own bubble, I’d probably wear some of those flame or camo masks for the traveling too.

Do you think going sooner and having a couple of days to settle in before you jump into the blue nowhere would help?
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   Posted 1/27/2018 4:32 PM (GMT -6)   
I am a long-time software developer, so I know that side of this situation very well. I know how detrimental neuro Lyme can be to the develop/debug process. Yes, I've stared at code for hours at a time, and completely forgotten what I was looking at as soon as my eyes drifted from the screen. Bad days. Thankfully, for me, those days appear only in my rear view mirror now, and work is a much better place for me after 1.5 years of treatment.

Haven't traveled for work in a long while now, because it's so expensive to keep someone on-site for a week at a time. Skype and email are much more cost effective the vast majority of the time. This is good and bad. Good, because usually I'd only be forced to go to a site when things were REALLY bad, and management was forced to send someone there to get yelled at by a customer (bad days). Bad, because I got to go to all sorts of cool places I'd probably never had the chance to get to (Tokyo, Sydney, Amsterdam, Germany, Seattle, etc). Traveling is fun, when you get a chance to get away from the office.

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There usually isn't a lot of middle ground here in roll outs like we have here in Nic's case. It's either gonna go swimmingly in which case he's basically baby-sitting and staring at the walls for hours wondering why he's there, or it's gonna go pear-shaped and it's gonna be a mad scramble 24/7 "all hands on deck" until things get fixed. Been there, done that....

As someone said up above, hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

BTW most folks in northern Italy speak English fairly well, so getting around isn't too much of a hassle. Typically, you'll see items labelled twice, 1st line in Italian and 2nd line below it in English. Easy peasy...

Post Edited (pasimoneau) : 1/27/2018 2:55:53 PM (GMT-7)


NicHostetler
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   Posted 1/30/2018 8:45 AM (GMT -6)   
I discussed travel with my boss yesterday and she didn't really give me an option to NOT go like I expected she might. She did, however, seem open to the idea that if I was absolutely miserable while I was there that I could come back early if I needed to.

Two weeks just seems so long..

PeteZa - Thank you so much! I appreciate the support smile

Dude - LymedIn - very clever! I'd definitely help out with creating a board!

Village Crazy Lady - I will be arriving on Saturday and not starting work until Monday so hopefully I will be adjusted by then.
Very sick starting around 07/2016
Started treatment 03/2017
Bixain & Cefdinir - 3 months - plateaued
Then Biaxin & Minocycline - 3 months - did not improve
Tinidazole - 500MG 2x a day - 2 weeks
Now taking:
Mepron 5mL 2x a day
Zithromax
Nystatin
Cats Claw - 30 drops 2x a day
Gou Teng - 30 drops 2x a day
CSA - 40 drops 2x a day
Japanese Knotweed - 40 drops 2x a day

NicHostetler
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   Posted 1/30/2018 8:52 AM (GMT -6)   
pasimoneau said...
I am a long-time software developer, so I know that side of this situation very well. I know how detrimental neuro Lyme can be to the develop/debug process. Yes, I've stared at code for hours at a time, and completely forgotten what I was looking at as soon as my eyes drifted from the screen. Bad days. Thankfully, for me, those days appear only in my rear view mirror now, and work is a much better place for me after 1.5 years of treatment.

Haven't traveled for work in a long while now, because it's so expensive to keep someone on-site for a week at a time. Skype and email are much more cost effective the vast majority of the time. This is good and bad. Good, because usually I'd only be forced to go to a site when things were REALLY bad, and management was forced to send someone there to get yelled at by a customer (bad days). Bad, because I got to go to all sorts of cool places I'd probably never had the chance to get to (Tokyo, Sydney, Amsterdam, Germany, Seattle, etc). Traveling is fun, when you get a chance to get away from the office.

----

There usually isn't a lot of middle ground here in roll outs like we have here in Nic's case. It's either gonna go swimmingly in which case he's basically baby-sitting and staring at the walls for hours wondering why he's there, or it's gonna go pear-shaped and it's gonna be a mad scramble 24/7 "all hands on deck" until things get fixed. Been there, done that....

As someone said up above, hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

BTW most folks in northern Italy speak English fairly well, so getting around isn't too much of a hassle. Typically, you'll see items labelled twice, 1st line in Italian and 2nd line below it in English. Easy peasy...


Pasimoneau - Sorry, I missed your post earlier. This makes me feel better about the Paris airport! Thank you!

I have been treating for 9 months so if by my 1.5 year mark I will be better that would be so great. I still struggle with lots of brain fog and dizzyness. I just can't get rid of it. What helped you with these symptoms?

And yes, exactly. We have had several roll-outs go very well and several go not so well. Just depends on the site. It is unpredictable.

Good to know about the language in northern Italy!

pasimoneau
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   Posted 1/30/2018 10:09 AM (GMT -6)   
No worries, Nic. Been a busy thread!

Yeah, again, don't fret about Charles de Galle. If you've been in one large airport, you've been in all of them. It's organized well enough, and things are labelled in multiple languages, such that you should be fine. You might have to take a shuttle to transfer between terminals, depending upon your flight itinerary, but that's not anything to worry about.

Primarily I've found minocycline to be the most effective treatment for my neuro symptoms. I initially treated with it for 3-4 months, cycled on to other abx which didn't do a whole lot for me. Had a recurrence of symptoms a few months after that, went back on minocycline for 2-3 months and that's mostly done the job. Been complementing that with herbals (sida acuta, japanese knotweek, cryptolepsis) -- not sure if they're helping or hurting, but I've been improving so let's say they're helping. smile

It'll be a little cool in Italy, especially in/near the Veneto since it's so far north. Just dress warmly and you'll be fine. Enjoy!

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   Posted 1/30/2018 10:34 AM (GMT -6)   
pasimoneau said...
No worries, Nic. Been a busy thread!

Yeah, again, don't fret about Charles de Galle. If you've been in one large airport, you've been in all of them. It's organized well enough, and things are labelled in multiple languages, such that you should be fine. You might have to take a shuttle to transfer between terminals, depending upon your flight itinerary, but that's not anything to worry about.

Primarily I've found minocycline to be the most effective treatment for my neuro symptoms. I initially treated with it for 3-4 months, cycled on to other abx which didn't do a whole lot for me. Had a recurrence of symptoms a few months after that, went back on minocycline for 2-3 months and that's mostly done the job. Been complementing that with herbals (sida acuta, japanese knotweek, cryptolepsis) -- not sure if they're helping or hurting, but I've been improving so let's say they're helping. smile

It'll be a little cool in Italy, especially in/near the Veneto since it's so far north. Just dress warmly and you'll be fine. Enjoy!


Sounds good! Hopefully I feel a little better when I am there!

I took mino for around 3 months (maybe only 2.5) but I just remember it making me feel extra dizzy. My LLMD thought that was a side effect but after 8-10 weeks of that and not feeling much improvement I stopped. Maybe I should go back to it.

I am going to have a call with my LLMD today hopefully to plan my next steps. I am thinking I should maybe hit yeast first.
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