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Eaglet
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   Posted 1/30/2018 4:23 PM (GMT -6)   
I have been told by a leading bioresonance therapist to take black spruce essential oil – as well as rose oil in 5% dilution – in order to kill the parasitic organisms she found from my body using the bioresonance technique. I ordered those oils because I knew many people have found relief through her advice. However, I'm still feeling quite doubtous whether to take them internally or not... I'm afraid because here in Europe essential oils are considered as cosmetics only and on the label of those very bottles it says "warning, not for internal usage!".

But I'm feeling so bad... that I would just like to try it... What if it helps??

The advice was to take 10 drops (!) of Black spruce oli twice a day (!) put inside a gelatin capsule or mixed into a yogurt-like food. And 5% rose oil (high quality brand) 5 drops twice a day.

These oils were indicated for the removal of acanthocephala (a type of worm, not sure if I REALLY have it though?).

She also thinks I carry hymenolepis nana/dwarf tapeworm, and bioresonance therapists tend to think this is one of the organisms responsable for the persistence of Borrelia as lyme hides inside of these bigger pathogens.... They even think Lyme is transmitted through these worms... Not sure what is true... I just want some help... If this is not capable to help me symptomwise, I wish it would at least make my future treatments more succesfull... Without the big parasites there would be less burden on the IS, I guess?

What to do? I'm overwhelmed.

For the dwarf tapeworm I was told to prepare a alcohol/herb dilution and take it a spoonfull a day.

Is this something I should follow or not...? I don't want more troubles but something needs to be done. I tested positive for the three Bees and other infections in a German lab. Have been sick with bizzare neurological symptoms for 3+ years.

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   Posted 1/31/2018 12:00 AM (GMT -6)   
Eaglet - I'm hesitant to take the EO's internally, too.

My niece is a distributor for one of the well known companies (Multi level marketing) and she uses them in her cooking all the time.

But theyre not regulated by the FDA...so I wonder about the safety of them.

What regulations do they follow?

I know people do ingest them....though.
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Post Edited (Girlie) : 1/31/2018 12:13:35 PM (GMT-7)


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   Posted 1/31/2018 10:39 AM (GMT -6)   
As much as I wish I could bring myself to take them internally after listening to all of the stories of miraculous healing I just can't.

Essential oils touching our mucus membranes even once, or multiple times can cause a hypersensitivity reaction which could make someone allergic to that plant forever. One drop of peppermint oil taken internally is like drinking a crazy amount of peppermint tea -- over 1,000 cups. While I am sure that is what can make it so healing, it is also what can make it so dangerous.

If anything, I definitely wouldn't take them undiluted if you decide to. Be sure to dilute the oil into another oil, like olive or coconut before taking. That will greatly reduce the chance of having a poor reaction.

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   Posted 1/31/2018 12:20 PM (GMT -6)   
I think your worms would show in a stool sample. I would get better testing done to validate that you do have worms before treating.

There are 2 types of tests that can check for parasites. Serology and blood smear.

If it were me, I would get a second opinion with one of these other tests just to make sure before I tested.

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   Posted 1/31/2018 12:24 PM (GMT -6)   
I would also suggest taking only very high quality oils- for any that you want to ingest. I do take oils ( only ones that are ok to take that way) internally, and get mine from doterra & North American herb & spice. I’m not affiliated with eaither company.

The edible oils that I get from those companies do have labels that say they can be taken that way. It will usually look like a nutritional information label and reccomend a dosage . ( which in my experience is often lower than what I end up using , but a good place to start)

The suggestion to dilute is a good one. I also think it’s a good idea to test each oil on the skin of your arm
( mixed with the carrier oil) and wait to see if you have any reactions. I forget how long you’re supposed to wait. I have some books here, I’ll look it up.

Ok, I tried to look it up in a book, no luck. You could probably find the info online. I think you’re supposed to wait overnight but I might just do that because I have really sensitive skin.

Post Edited (Casa11) : 1/31/2018 10:36:00 AM (GMT-7)


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   Posted 1/31/2018 12:24 PM (GMT -6)   
I would also get further test done to be certain you are treating the right thing.

I ingest oils occasionally but I wouldn't ingest just any oils. I know Doterra and Young Living are okay to ingest (or so they say). I've had herxing from oregano oil so I know it's working.

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   Posted 1/31/2018 12:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Taking EOs internally is a very hot and debated topic.

I have used EOs for the past several years now. I have had very mixed results from using them. For one issue, it resolved one of my issues where no other "professional" could figure it out. Other times, I have found them to be very ineffective.

I understand, to a point, of why they are concerned about taking them internally. I have seen people swear they would never take it internally, and then they are eating a peppermint candy cane flavored with peppermint EO. (Yes, I read the label.) I have found them in other food/beverages too.

So, for us? I don't personally ingest EOs on our own (DIY).
However, I do have some supplement products that do contain EOs that my functional medicine MD has recommended to us. I also talked to our NP about my concerns too. FWIW - we used that supplement for very long stretches, and we had no ill effects from doing such.

So, I'm very on the fence about ingesting EOs. I don't do it via DIY, but I have used it in a few supplements with caution per doctor's recommendations (and yes, I realize doctors aren't always right, but I do like/respect my functional medicine and NP doctors).
Kid#1: Extremely sick for several years, very difficult to treat, but doing great now!
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Treating with herbals now.

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   Posted 1/31/2018 12:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Also, just like anything else we take, I think it’s always best to start at the lowest possible dose ( 1 drop of diluted oil) and gradually increasing it depending on how you feel.

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   Posted 1/31/2018 2:17 PM (GMT -6)   
nponeil77 said...
I would also get further test done to be certain you are treating the right thing.

I ingest oils occasionally but I wouldn't ingest just any oils. I know Doterra and Young Living are okay to ingest (or so they say). I've had herxing from oregano oil so I know it's working.


"(or so they say)" right.

But, what regulations are in place...other than they saying so.

Anyone can make claims.

I had asked a 'rep' several years ago for information on this subject...and she didn't (couldn't?) provide me with anything.
They're most likely safe...but who knows?
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Eaglet
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   Posted 1/31/2018 4:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Uhh, thank you all for the thoughts! This is so overwhelming indeed and so wrong that we have to figure out everything by ourselves... You never know who you can trust, they might recommend something but the one who ingests the EO or whatever is not them... So I don't know if they have thought about these things in depth enough... As I told the bioresonance therapist about my fear, she just said "oh yes they say so, but don't worry, these have been used since ages!"

She also thinks Lyme, Babesia and Bartonella are such a piece of cake once you have eliminated those worms... (And this is quite a different view from what researchers and holistically thinking doctors say – that Lyme really is a thing of its own... a devil we could say...). SO WHO TO BELIEVE??

If I don't dare taking those oils internally at least without proper supervision, do you have any ideas on how could I use them? I have understood they are being absorbed effectively through the bottom of feet or that they can be rubbed along the spine with a carrier oil? I'm very new to the subject of EO so I don't really know...

Any experiences with these particular oils? Black spruce (100%) and rose (diluted in coconut oil, 5%)?

I'm going to answer individual comments soon... about testing etc.

Post Edited (Eaglet) : 1/31/2018 2:08:04 PM (GMT-7)


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   Posted 1/31/2018 4:06 PM (GMT -6)   
"She also thinks Lyme, Babesia and Bartonella are such a piece of cake once you have eliminated those worms... "


So, she's saying the three B's are easy to treat? I don't think so....Babesia and Bartonella can prove to be stubborn b-ggers.
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Eaglet
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   Posted 1/31/2018 4:13 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, she said she has had Lyme for three times and cured everytime...

Somehow I'm having this feeling that she doesn't quite understand... that there is the "little Lyme" and the "big bad Lyme".

Do you think the alcohol/herb DIY-dilution is OK to try? A spoonfull or two per day...

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   Posted 2/1/2018 8:42 PM (GMT -6)   
countingstarsx said...
As much as I wish I could bring myself to take them internally after listening to all of the stories of miraculous healing I just can't.

Essential oils touching our mucus membranes even once, or multiple times can cause a hypersensitivity reaction which could make someone allergic to that plant forever. One drop of peppermint oil taken internally is like drinking a crazy amount of peppermint tea -- over 1,000 cups. While I am sure that is what can make it so healing, it is also what can make it so dangerous.

If anything, I definitely wouldn't take them undiluted if you decide to. Be sure to dilute the oil into another oil, like olive or coconut before taking. That will greatly reduce the chance of having a poor reaction.


Wow, that's crazy what one single drop can hold!! Do you know if this hypersensitivity reaction is the very reason why people are hesitant to ingest essential oils or is there something else aswell?

Yes, mixing them with another oil, I read about it. Not sure how to do it though, just take a spoonful of olive oil and drop one or more drops of EO there? Or should they be blended together (I guess that's what mixing means)?

I don't think I'm gonna try this now... But if in the future...

Thank you.

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   Posted 2/1/2018 8:48 PM (GMT -6)   
PeteZa said...
I think your worms would show in a stool sample. I would get better testing done to validate that you do have worms before treating.

There are 2 types of tests that can check for parasites. Serology and blood smear.

If it were me, I would get a second opinion with one of these other tests just to make sure before I tested.


Yes, I wish I could know for sure.

I have had Genova's CDSA 2.0 done in 2015: no parasites found.

Also "regular samples", several times. No findings.

Some blood smears but not for these specific parasites that showed up through bioresonance (I don't know if bioresonance is reliable at all but gotta try it).

No significant gastro symptoms but these alternative health people think everybody can have worms and they can cause symptoms of all kinds.

I really wish I could know what to treat and how. *sigh*

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   Posted 2/1/2018 8:50 PM (GMT -6)   
PeteZa said...
I think your worms would show in a stool sample. I would get better testing done to validate that you do have worms before treating.

There are 2 types of tests that can check for parasites. Serology and blood smear.

If it were me, I would get a second opinion with one of these other tests just to make sure before I tested.


Yes, I wish I could know for sure.

I have had Genova's CDSA 2.0 done in 2015: no parasites found.

Also "regular samples", several times. No findings.

Some blood smears but not for these specific parasites that showed up through bioresonance (I don't know if bioresonance is reliable at all but gotta try it).

No significant gastro symptoms but these alternative health people think everybody can have worms and they can cause symptoms of all kinds.

I really wish I could know what to treat and how. *sigh*

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   Posted 2/2/2018 11:36 PM (GMT -6)   
Eaglet said...
countingstarsx said...
As much as I wish I could bring myself to take them internally after listening to all of the stories of miraculous healing I just can't.

Essential oils touching our mucus membranes even once, or multiple times can cause a hypersensitivity reaction which could make someone allergic to that plant forever. One drop of peppermint oil taken internally is like drinking a crazy amount of peppermint tea -- over 1,000 cups. While I am sure that is what can make it so healing, it is also what can make it so dangerous.

If anything, I definitely wouldn't take them undiluted if you decide to. Be sure to dilute the oil into another oil, like olive or coconut before taking. That will greatly reduce the chance of having a poor reaction.


Wow, that's crazy what one single drop can hold!! Do you know if this hypersensitivity reaction is the very reason why people are hesitant to ingest essential oils or is there something else aswell?

Yes, mixing them with another oil, I read about it. Not sure how to do it though, just take a spoonful of olive oil and drop one or more drops of EO there? Or should they be blended together (I guess that's what mixing means)?

I don't think I'm gonna try this now... But if in the future...

Thank you.


I think the hypersensitivity reaction is the biggest potential danger of internal use. It is a much bigger problem when EOs are taken undiluted though. A lot of people recommend that people put a drop under the tongue, or a drop in water before drinking and that is why a lot of people are so strongly against internal use. Otherwise, its just a matter of dosage. I don't know if you take any lyme herbs, but this might put it into perspective. One drop of Japanese Knotweed tincture causes me massive anxiety, and a flu-like herx for at least a day, five drops will put me down for a week. IF they made an EO out of Japanese Knotweed one drop of EO could be equivalent to 100+ drops of tincture. Even though they are both "natural" one seems a little safer than the other to me.

I read above you said your provider said that they have been used for ages safely -- I'm not sure that is very true. Making EO's has a HUGE environmental impact, and I don't think that people had the resources to make them in bulk over the ages. It was much more economical to make teas and possibly tinctures that it was to distill 10 pounds of a plant for 30mL of EO.

Dilution is exactly as easy as you wrote -- I would aim for a 5% dilution or less (5 drop EO to 95 drops of carrier oil.) You dont have to go crazy mixing it, but a good stir to make it well incorporated is good.

I'm not saying its 100% dangerous, all the time. I just know that a lot of MLM companies recommend unsafe practices when it comes to EO's, and that there is at least SOME danger when you do not know what you are doing. Because of that, I wouldn't try it on my own and I would want to have trust in a provider who was recommending I do so.

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   Posted 2/12/2018 8:28 PM (GMT -6)   
I am posting in reply to the comment that one would think a parasite would show up in stool sample test. I so wish this were true, but apparently stool testing has had no real significant technological improvements. The labs are either wrong intentionally or don't know what they're looking at. Ask a good old fashioned DVM who does stool sample tests in house himself/herself. Even a very good lab tech will tell you stool sample testing is very difficult and you should have at least 3 separate samples tested over a few weeks. It's pretty much a terrible state of affairs. I think tons (most?) Americans have significant amounts of parasites b/c we never learned to "clean" out our systems 1-2 x a year like our ancestors. Foods to eat to kill parasites... raw pumpkins seeds, pomegranate, carrots, beets, raw garlic, onion, blackberries, papaya seeds. I am learning this the hard way!

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   Posted 2/12/2018 8:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Does anyone know how Dr Klinghardt test for parasites? I don't.

I see Dr Yu who test and treat most every patient for parasites and I hear some amazing stories and they aren't all GI realted. It wasn't my cure but my body clearly got strong after treating parasites.

I dont use EO so I saw this as two questions-treat parasites? use EO.

I would treat parasites

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   Posted 2/12/2018 9:32 PM (GMT -6)   
I would look into this lady's work:

www.debugyourhealth.com/parasites-in-humans
www.debugyourhealth.com/lyme-disease-cure

magoo2 said...
Does anyone know how Dr Klinghardt test for parasites? I don't.


With regard to Dr. Klinghardt and parasites, I found the following:

4) Parasites – Treatment may consist of water with garlic or artemisnin taken rectally.   
a. Rectal use of garlic then adding artemisinin.
b. BioPure has a suppository with garlic and artemisinin, but dissolving works better in many cases.  
It may make sense to start with the suppository and then graduate to the rectal liquid infusion.
c. Every dog and horse gets dewormed but we don’t give the same benefits to people.
d. Excellent article Nuclear Weapons and Neglected Diseases: The “Ten‐Thousand‐to‐One Gap” at
journals.plos.org/plosntds/article?id=10.1371/journal.pntd.0000680
e. A 6 week parasite protocol leads to more progress than 3 years of antibiotics in many people.
f. Brain parasites may be to blame for seizures and brain symptoms.   
g. Functional MRI test in Mexico City can look for parasites.

Source: bit.ly/2o64h7l, Page 8
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Cats are not safe for us.   Dogs of Lyme disease owners have average lifespan of 8 years vs. 12‐14.  If there is a plague on the world right now, it is cats.  Dogs carry Bartonella but attract bugs to them rather than to their owners.  They have parasites.  Dog owners need to be de‐wormed twice a year.

Source: bit.ly/2o64h7l, Page 12
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How Toxic Metals Promote Parasites With Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt
bit.ly/2G7OJXN

Parasitic Infections: A Common Lyme Disease Co-Condition
www.prohealth.com/library/showarticle.cfm?libid=30517

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   Posted 2/13/2018 5:18 AM (GMT -6)   
Dude- how does he test for parasites?

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magoo2 said...
Dude- how does he test for parasites?


See the following section that I've bolded in blue.

Assessment and Diagnosis

Traditional Chinese Medicine, Ayurvedic medicine, and traditional naturopathic medicine have all classically considered parasitic illness in their teachings. It would serve our respective professions well to embrace these roots. The modern obscurity surrounding the existence and classification of parasites is upheld by diagnostic shortcomings. The rate of parasite detection is less than 12%, according to recent communication between Dr. Klinghardt and a leading parasitology lab. The gold standard of many parasite diagnoses, stool ova and parasite testing, is notorious for its low predictive value; expertise in species-specific preparations and procedures is lacking.14,15 The eagerness to improve these bleak statistics is evident in a hopeful array of diagnostic advancements.16,17

Nevertheless, performing a detailed physical examination, obtaining a thorough history of present illness, evaluating routine laboratory work, and utilizing the diagnostic prowess of established methods of biofeedback (e.g., Autonomic Response Testing, Matrix Reflex Testing, etc.) enable a practitioner to become perceptive to parasitic illness.

All aspects of the physical exam may pertain to this broad class of infectious disease. Organ-specific effects can be a consequence of a parasite's natural life cycle as well as accidental habitation. Abdominal palpation often reveals the "ropey consistency" of chronic inflammation as most parasitic life cycles compromise bowel health. Palpable, nonfixated abdominal masses, gall bladder tenderness, and liver enlargements are frequent. Overt and subtle signs of nutritional deficiency (e.g., angular cheilitis, macroglossia, etc.), rashes and skin abnormalities (e.g., circumoral pallor), respiratory and cardiovascular abnormalities, fundoscopic findings, and so on may all support parasite involvement.

Review of systems is likewise all encompassing. Cyclical febrile illness, particularly correlating to moon cycles, and fatigue and various pain presentations including fibromyalgia should alert the clinician to infectious and toxic etiologies, including parasitosis. Any quality of bowel function may be present: diarrhea, constipation, and everything in between. Most patients are chronically constipated and/or experience irritable bowel symptoms. Patients may present with disturbed urinary function, unusual bleeding, shortness of breath, cognitive impairments, neurological symptoms (notably seizures), and/ or a wide range of behavior (food cravings, sleep disturbance, etc.) Psychiatric symptoms may indeed be pathognomonic for parasitic illness.

General laboratory investigation of the patient routinely reveals elevated eosinophil counts, especially under the duress of helminth infection.118 Protozoa are believed to reflect T cell, B cell, and macrophage dependent immune reactions, and thus a wide variety of white blood cell abnormalities are common.18

Absence of eosinophil elevation should not rule out parasitic infection. Note that the degree of eosinophil elevation may or may not correlate to severity of infection, both quantitatively and qualitatively; rather, correlation with present-time symptom severity is more likely.18

The authors routinely see eosinophils in high normal range, monocytes in high normal range in combination with a general low white blood count (5000 or below). Strong correlations exist between both microcytic and macrocytic anemia.19 Nutrient deficiencies are rampant, including decreases in fat-soluble vitamins due to sluggish bile. Marginally elevated liver enzymes are common with increased oxidative stress markers (e.g., elevated GGT). Lowered detoxification capacity and biotransformation can increase TGF beta 1, cal protection, beta-glucuronidase, and so on, and these measurements should be considered dysbiotic consequences at large.

Indeed, the current concept of dysbiosis with its bacterial, viral, and fungal basis should be considered the "tip of the iceberg": deeper and more systemic parasitic issues are usually present. As mentioned earlier, heavy metal toxicity and toxic burden findings at large should prompt a physician to consider parasitic illness.

In sum, many patients with negative parasitic labs will pass worms when empirically treated. Treatment often results in rapid improvements, although improvement can be delayed 4 to 6 months. Certainly the benefits of nutritional improvement, immune modulation, and so on take time, and the course of treatment needed for lasting improvement is quite variable. Many late-stage pathologies and diagnoses, including any cancer under the diaphragm (liver, bowel, pancreas), should lead to parasitology workup and/or empirical treatment.

drallisonhofmann.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/TownsendLetter-Parasitosis.pdf

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magoo2,

Also, check-out this freaky stuff from an interview with Dr. Klinghardt:

Wendy Myers: So what are some of the most common parasites that you see in clients? And how do you go about addressing those?

Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt: Well, the most common parasite we see is the rope worm. The one thing—but there’s still a lot of arguments going on about them—is it really a creature, is it just [shredded] inner lining of the gut. There is a lot of discussion going on. But the truth is when the rope worm comes out, they have dramatic improvements in their health whatever that thing is.

The treatment for that that we use are the Gubarev protocols, the patented protocol from the Russian scientist. The first one is doing an enema with milk and salt.

Wendy Myers: Hmmm…

Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt: The problem with it, you have to hold it for two hours. Parasites love milk. They come from their hiding places into the gut to feast on the milk. But they cannot sense salt, and the salt paralyzes them. So when you then have a cleansing enema afterwards, the rope comes out with it […]

Wendy Myers: Hmmm…

Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt: So that’s step number one. There is a certain sequence. And you do these enemas every four days. You do the first one, the milk. If it’s productive, you stay with the milk until nothing comes out anymore.

And then you move out to the next one.

And the most dramatic one is the third one using eucalyptus leaves and eucalyptus oil. And the enema, again, you have to hold it for two hours. And with this, we have pictures of people having parasites come out of their nose, out of their eyes, out of their mouth, out of their ears.

Wendy Myers: Wow!

Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt: …unusual places. And people that never believed they had any parasites, we diagnose it differently.

And so, the Gubarov protocol is excellent. And they’re chemically extremely safe. The parasites come out as a whole. It doesn’t matter that they’re stored in their coat.

So, we start with that. And then, we move on—I like the medical drops. My mentor in this area has been Simon Shuer, a physician from St. Louis who developed some beautiful protocols sequencing medical drops. The first one is arbormectin and […][…] We do that for two weeks. And then, alinia, we need further development. That is a very wide spectrum of endoparasitic qualities and crosses the blood-brain barrier.

And then, we use Albendazol. Albendazol, again, is an older drug, a very potent tapeworm drug. And again, one of the only two drugs to cross the blood-brain barrier, Alinia and Albendazol.

And unfortunately, many of our Lyme patients who have parasites in the brain, some of them, we can demonstrate with the MRI, some can only be demonstrated by the clinical changes with it.

For this, we use a variety of products. We have a suppository that contains artemisinin. It’s the drug that got the Nobel Prize in Medicine a year ago. It’s an extract of wormwood and freeze dried garlic.

And by using suppositories, it’s picked up by the portal vein and it gets to the liver. It really cleans out the liver very deeply.

We use the bowel suppository that’s […] microbes. They’re immune-active. There’s a German parasitologist who taught me this.

But then, you add the system infested with parasites. Out of the 100% of power that you need to push them out of the system, with the best drug regime, you can, at most, do 15%. The other 85% have to come out of the patient’s own system, immune system doing that.

And so, by treating Lyme, treating the viruses, immune modulating all the things I’ve mentioned before, we often have to set the stage for the parasites to become treatable. So it’s one thing.

There’s also published research that shows when you treat parasites just with medical drugs, then you look deeper into the cases, they realized they could never clear a system of parasites with medical drugs. You can reduce the body burden, but you can’t clear it. At the end of the article, it suggests, “Well, maybe we should combine it with some natural treatment, and maybe then we’ll be successful.”

But parasite treatment has to be long. Once you find somebody that’s affected with it, you don’t […] The instructions are you take one tablet three times a day for one day and you’re going to be cured.

Well, we have patients that still, after two years, of daily parasite treatment are still pooping out big parasites. And so, that’s the thing. People have to be patient. They have to be diligent. They have to stay with it. And we have to know that there has been conspiracy against developing anti-parasitic drugs. Parasites are not a problem here. Yeah, they’re a problem in Africa. “How much should be in this? They don’t pay their bills.”

And so there’s been a neglect in this area, in the development of appropriate medical drugs. And so they’re always combining medical drugs with the alternatives, the different herbs, different methods, a lot of colonics, a lot of enemas.

And usually, the main improvement happens about two or three months into a parasite treatment. There are some radical shifts in the patient that are very dramatic and positive. But if you go away with the treatment […], the system will re-establish itself. And so we have to stay on it with varying courses of different things.

I mean just over the last year, […] treatment worked beautiful in the early nineties and late eighties. But it doesn’t work anymore. Parasites have changed, they’re changing all the time.

The last thing I want to say is that WiFi in the house is a huge driver that works to establish a living environment for the parasites. It reduces our immune system […] They get immobilized by the WiFi and the worms benefit from it—or at least they don’t suffer from it the same way. So there’s an imbalance between the two system. It’s a huge factor.

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   Posted 2/13/2018 7:05 PM (GMT -6)   
I think you have some words misspelled. I think Klinghardt follows Dr Yu's protocals.

I see dr yu on a regular basis. Most sick people have parasites and most are healthier after they are treated. That's a pretty common them with his patients. Also he hits parasites are with meds at high doses for three weeks to a month. You can read about that at his website if interested.
If it was me I just might take a three week course of ivermectin and albendazole and see if you get any reaction.

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   Posted 2/13/2018 8:01 PM (GMT -6)   
magoo2 said...
I think you have some words misspelled. I think Klinghardt follows Dr Yu's protocals.

I see dr yu on a regular basis. Most sick people have parasites and most are healthier after they are treated. That's a pretty common them with his patients. Also he hits parasites are with meds at high doses for three weeks to a month. You can read about that at his website if interested.
If it was me I just might take a three week course of ivermectin and albendazole and see if you get any reaction.


I'm not sure if your last comments were directed to me. If so, what I listed was a cut-and-paste, so any spelling or typographical errors were already present.

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   Posted 2/13/2018 8:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Dude it was directed at you. I could be wrong but I think klinghardt uses Yu's protocal
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