Anemia/b12/folate questions, (I need more nutrients and circulation than most people?)

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astroman
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   Posted 2/7/2018 11:32 AM (GMT -6)   
I realize these are not lyme questions, however, some here might have some good pointers on this.

Background: Fine tuning my body/repairing. Lyme is no longer an issue. Had leaky gut / digestion issues for years- as we know this can lead to lack of nutritional absorption. Still correcting energy and muscle health apparently affected from several lyme related issues over the years..

My thoughts/ramblings: The whole B12, iron and folate thing can be so confusing, misleading ect that you dont know what to believe. So I'm asking you here, if anyone knows this really well. This is important to figure out. My inner cell (Spectra Cell test) B12 was in the middle range. My B6 will soar from cheap vitamins as they wont absorb - must be genes as my gut feels great this last year.

**Can Anemia be seen/detected on standard yearly (free with insc) "physical" blood tests????**

Nutritional points I have noticed while mostly eating Palio diet (cave man natural diet):

1)I feel more energetic/clear thinking and less sore with more protein. I could never be vegan. How do they survive?? My body and brain needs and thrives from protein, no question about it. And some say we dont need it? WTH?

2)I feel better by taking my "high end/quality" multi-vit in the *evening* and lunch time (more than I need for some reason!!!). This makes no sense as my gut feels healthy now- it should absorb properly.

3)I feel better (brain and body) from the circulation heavy exercise provides. Less AM brain fog next day. Do I have an oxygen/circulation issue?

Mayo clinic: " Some anemia's, such as iron deficiency anemia or vitamin B-12 deficiency, are common"

My muscles feel way better after DMSO applied topically. This improves circulation at the cell level in muscles- breaks down fibrin, scar tissue, moves free radicals. But, I should not need this. My body wont do this on its own for some reason, its weird. Maybe just to much of a build up for my body to fix/clean up on its own, I dont know.

Note: My "fitness chemistry/composition" is excellent for my age (even compared to people 25 years younger). Just want to feel like it (brain and body), covering all the bases. Life is obviously shorter past 50.
Had initial lyme symptoms late 80's, then again and with bullseye early 90's. Ended ABX for Lyme in 2015. Rebuilding / fine tuning / fixing muscles since then; member "10 Percenters Lyme Club". What an adventure this has been. Hashimotos adds to the enjoyment.

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   Posted 2/7/2018 12:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Astro, are you taking anything currently?

What about adding something in for helping circulation for a bit to see if you need to just get a "little" help?

I'm stuck on a higher protein diet for a while yet, due to healing my Addison's - so I'm with you on the Vegan diet - although I do get tired of it all once in a while and look for a very high protein Vegetarian meal. B-12 deficiency is actually something that Vegans must watch for.

I believe the 'standard' testing that is done for B-12 or Iron or even ferritin anemia is sufficient, it's having the doctor that understands what the values are that means more - although I could be wrong on this, as I haven't been using doctors lately!
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astroman
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   Posted 2/7/2018 1:25 PM (GMT -6)   
"Astro, are you taking anything currently?"
- For??

As far as vitamins, I take a really good multi-vitamin, suggested by a "Gene" Dr. whom I no longer see. I take additional plant protein powder on workout days and started to on non-workout days too.

For circulation- I tried Hawthorn. Low doses didnt do much. Higher doses made me dizzy.

I noticed I feel better (more energy) if I take two a day, lunch and night. One a day at lunch makes little difference for me. I never tried just one at night though. So I dont know what part of this multi-vit makes me feel better when I double the daily dose.

I've read a little about ferritan/iron on Stop The Thyroid Maddness site.

There is apparently some "trickery" in this testing as well- nothing is as easy as it first seems. I ask here before reading up on some controversial subjects.
Had initial lyme symptoms late 80's, then again and with bullseye early 90's. Ended ABX for Lyme in 2015. Rebuilding / fine tuning / fixing muscles since then; member "10 Percenters Lyme Club". What an adventure this has been. Hashimotos adds to the enjoyment.

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   Posted 2/7/2018 1:39 PM (GMT -6)   
LOL, sorry - I was thinking of blood thinning supplements. A lack of good circulation can be from the extra fibrin in the blood. I'm not sure that's what's going on, of course, but I thought I'd ask.

Turmeric is pretty good at thinning the blood too, is that something that you have tried?

Hopefully, someone with a little insight into these issues will be along soon though! Sorry I can't be of much help!
Herb only treatment for Lyme & Bart ended 12/11 - no active symptoms for 2 yrs -Herb only treatment for Babesia ended 12/12
www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=2977364
Had Lyme, Bart, Babs, RMSF, Ehrlichia, Myco, Anaplasmosis, EBV
New set of infections 8/2014 - still treating.
Come visit me: dogwoodtraditionals.freeforums.net/

astroman
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   Posted 2/7/2018 2:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Oh thinning supps, nope. I forgot what they called the blood "thickness/viscosity" test, it normalized after my odd clot two/three years ago. I'm guessing from your thinning question, you remember this happening....good memory on your part if thats the case.

I took one baby aspirin daily for a year after that event and then stopped since it made no diffeence that I could tell.

Interstesting- while I was on the thinners for two weeks back then to clear the leg clot, I did not notice any improvment on other body muscle stiffness or mental clarity improvment. It only "fixed" my leg clot. I should ask for that blood viscosity tests again at my physical.
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