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Szabo246
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   Posted 2/20/2018 5:16 PM (GMT -6)   
I’m feeling really anxious about every little feelings I have in my chest. I’ve read about people falling asleep and just not waking up again and I’ve scared myself... badly.

Has anyone had angiograms done on their heart just to check everything is ok? I know many people have an ECG done but apparently they don’t give the full picture.

Am I overthinking this?

I’ve not had bad chest pain, just a discomfort a few days ago, could really do with some reassurance, my anxiety has been pretty bad the last few days so not sure if that’s making me overly paranoid

Any thoughts?

BabsBunny
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   Posted 2/20/2018 5:32 PM (GMT -6)   
My heart's been doing stupid things lately and giving me severe anxiety. Finally had to take a benzo for the anxiety, and voila - almost no heart issues. I can still feel palpitations and flutters, but I'm able to brush it off as "just Lyme doing its thing" and move on. It's the anxiety fueling a panic attack that turns the little heart palps into massive issues.

My doc was not concerned at all about my heart, but said I could go to a GP for tests if I wanted... There's more stress in trying to find a GP who won't grill me about Lyme, so I gave in and took a tiny bit of Ativan, and am surviving much better. (meanwhile, I'm looking into natural alternatives because I REALLY don't want to be on benzos, but he was pretty much slapping me over the head to just take the **** pill and calm down.) So I did.
Lyme, Babesia, Bartonella. Symptoms began 5/2016, didn't start treatment until 9/2016. Slow but steady recovery.

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Szabo246
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   Posted 2/20/2018 5:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you babsbunny, i wouldn’t wish this kind of anxiety on anyone but it sure it reassuring to know I’m not the only one who can feel like this.

Sorry for silly question... what’s benzo?

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   Posted 2/20/2018 6:29 PM (GMT -6)   
I have only had the EKG done - and that was just prior to diagnosis - it was done pre-surgery.


I have had a few flutters in the area of my heart, but I can't tell if they are muscle fasciculations or some 'thing' else.


I take Hawthorne and CoQ10 to help calm my worries.

and a benzo is Benzodiazepine. It's an anti-anxiety medication (ativan, valium, xanax etc.)
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WalkingbyFaith
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   Posted 2/20/2018 7:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Szabo,

I'm not sure what an angiogram is. I had an EKG and echocardiogram when I was in the middle of my worst cardiac symptoms when I first got sick with chronic Lyme. Everything looked normal except I had mitral valve regurge, which they were not concerned about. I later learned from Buhner's book on bartonella that bartonella can cause mitral valve regurge and a lot of other cardiac issues.

At that time, I had heart racing, palpitations, feeling like my heart was skipping beats, heart rate speeding up if I moved at all in bed at night, feeling like I had two hearts beating out of sync with each other. I'll finish this later. My mother is calling me.

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Post edit:
Okay, I'm back. Thanks, Girlie, for providing the excellent explanations of the different tests below.

Szabo,

I continued to have those same cardiac symptoms come and go over the years. I never really worried about them much after that initial onset, as I had told the doctors everything I was experiencing and they checked me out thoroughly and even did blood work to check for bacterial infections that could affect the heart. There was nothing. Over the years, the symptoms were annoying more than anything else. When my heart would "act up," as I used to call it, and would skip beats, it would make me feel tired like I needed to sit down or lay down. The episodes would come and go randomly. Sometimes it would last a few days to a few weeks and not appear again for months. Other times it would last for months on end. The cardiologist told me that happens sometimes (feeling skipped beats) with mitral valve regurge/prolapse. He told me there was a drug they can give that will help it but the side effect is that it can make you tired. I declined since that was the main problem I was already having.

After I had a second wave of Lyme worsening in 2015, I had some pain in the center of my chest and wondered if I was having a heart attack. I didn't really think I was, so I did not go to the ER. Instead, I called the cardiologist and scheduled an appointment. That time, he did a stress test (not nuclear). It didn't take much time at all for me to get up to the target heart rate. I was also have a lot of shortness of breath and exercise intolerance at that time and wondered if I would even be able to run on the treadmill. Ironically, I did fine on the stress test.

Hawthorne is the herb for the heart. I am taking it now with Buhner's bartonella protocol, which I started 8 months ago. Strangely, I haven't had any noticeable cardiac symptoms in over a year, so I don't know if hawthorne would stop symptoms if they started up again or not. It was over a year ago that I moved out of my moldy house and workplace and got to a cleaner environment. That may be why the cardiac symptoms haven't come back, but I can't say for sure.

Post Edited (WalkingbyFaith) : 2/20/2018 6:35:12 PM (GMT-7)


Girlie
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   Posted 2/20/2018 7:33 PM (GMT -6)   
An EKG can be an effective diagnostic tool for measuring the electrical efficiency of your heart. A healthy heart beats at a certain rhythm. The EKG displays the patterns of your heart as it beats, which doctors can use to determine if there are any abnormalities in your heart’s rhythm. A pattern that is too slow, too fast or erratic can indicate abnormal electrical activity. Doctors typically use an EKG to detect issues such as an irregular heartbeat, changes in the thickness of the heart walls, or potential damage to the heart muscle and tissue. An EKG test is performed by a healthcare professional known as an EKG Technician.


Echocardiogram Basics
The echocardiogram is a more advanced testing procedure in comparison to the EKG. The echocardiogram uses ultrasound, or echoing high-frequency sound waves, to create a visual image of your heart. This helps doctors view the internal structure of your heart and how well blood is able to flow through it. Doctors can also get an accurate read on the size and shape of your heart, as well as the level of heart valve function. Echocardiograms are typically used to diagnosis issues such as blood clots and infections, and they can also be used to detect previous heart attacks. By indicating the velocity of blood flow as it leaves the heart, an echocardiogram can indicate whether the heart is pumping efficiently. This test is conducted by a medical professional known as an Ultrasound Technologist or Monographer.




An angiogram is an X-ray image of blood vessels after they are filled with a contrast material. An angiogram of the heart, a coronary angiogram, is the "gold standard" for the evaluation of coronary artery disease (CAD). A coronary angiogram can be used to identify the exact location and severity of CAD.



/www.medicinenet.com/coronary_angiogram/article.htm

www.vistacollegepro.com/healthcare/ekg-technician/what-is-the-difference-between-an-ekg-test-and-echocardiogram/
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Post Edited (Girlie) : 2/21/2018 1:30:42 AM (GMT-7)


Szabo246
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   Posted 2/21/2018 3:02 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you all so so much, it’s so hard sometimes not to panic and before I know it I’m thinking of all sorts of things that send my mind into overdrive.

I started a supplement called cortisol calm 2 days ago, it’s supposed to help with the anxiety, let’s see. It’s got ashwaghanda and rhodiola in it, haven’t noticed anything yet but it is only been 2 days.
If they don’t work I may look into the benzo, this anxiety can be crippling.

I have taken a snapshot of the messages above and will keep reading them everytime my mind goes into silly mode.

Thank you ☺️

RedLabel
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   Posted 2/21/2018 3:35 AM (GMT -6)   
I too have panicked over my tachycardia. Sometimes racing to 140 bpm just by getting up and walking to the bathroom. That symptom is thankfully a bit better now.

I've had numerous ECGs, two 24h ECGs, two ultrasounds and some other stuff (this was before i knew i had Lyme). They found nothing wrong so i think it's a normal thing with these infections
Lyme, CPN, Yersinia, Coxsackie, CMV and Bartonella after LLMD visit.
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Girlie
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   Posted 2/21/2018 1:07 PM (GMT -6)   
I have mild POTS.


Sometimes when I stand up my heart rate goes up to 110 bpm. Usually only lasts about 5 minutes though before it normalizes.
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Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
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