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skitoro
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Date Joined Feb 2018
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   Posted 2/24/2018 3:09 PM (GMT -6)   
How much does Magnesium affect lyme? For me it seemed to help a lot.

I tested very positive to Lyme in 2016. I suspect I may have had lyme for up to 8 years. With Antibiotics I suddenly felt 10 years younger (Or maybe 8 years). I ended up getting treated twice with antibiotics, once with Amoxicillin and then with Doxycycline. I felt better with Amoxicillin but felt worst shortly after stopping. I switched doctors and went to a lyme clinic that put me on 30 days of Doxy. But, even after Doxy it seemed my symptoms were not fully cleared up and then I added Magnesium and found a lot of relief. Magnesium Glycinate I used for a few months but switched to Magnesium Citrate with Calcium. I also did go through a round of Acupuncture and was religiously using probiotics. Was pretty much at 95% + except for an occasional flare up.

Now, after over a year I suddenly got a bad flare up that lasted well over a week, (went to Dr) and now over a month. My doctor put me on minocycline and had some initial relief but things got worse. I had delayed taking Magnesium Citrate/Calcium because of minocycline interaction with Calcium. Now that I added Magnesium Glycinate I feel improved but not out of the woods yet. I was taking Mag Glycinate in the morning and Mag Citrate around noonish but I didn't feel as well as just taking Mag Glycinate all day.

It almost seems I ran out of Magnesium. I did start getting back to a longer harder workout when it seemed Lyme decided to bite me again. I will also, go back to Acupuncture and add probiotics.

Girlie
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Date Joined May 2014
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   Posted 2/24/2018 4:14 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi skitoro - welcome!

Magnesium is good for supporting your body, but it won't effectively treat lyme disease and coinfections.

You have had some short 'stints' of treatment...but not long enough to effectively get your infection(s) into remission.

My suggestion would be for you to find a LLMD and be treated.

Amoxicillin and doxycycline are good abx to treat, but mono therapy isn't recommended.
The infections should be treated with a combination of abx.

We encourage our new members to read through the information contained in the "New to Lyme?..Start Here!" thread. It's packed full of information.

If you want help finding a LLMD, you can start a new thread: "Looking for LLMD in/near______" and fill in the blank with your location.
You can also contact me via email and I will send you some names of LLMD"s for your area if I have some listed.
Moderator, Lyme Forum
Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

skitoro
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Date Joined Feb 2018
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   Posted 2/24/2018 4:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Girlie,

I read the information for new members and even looked at some of the LLMD docs. Frankly I wasn't very impressed that most of the LLMDs don't take insurance. To me this is a red flag that their work may not be verifiable and supportable. Too much snake oil for me.

I am interested in hearing what people do to supplement their treatment but it appears this forum may not be the right place for me.

I do understand that some people need different treatments and possibly need combinations of treatments but the science does show mono therapies do work.

Sorry to be so blunt but I've had good luck with my Doctor who has a good reputation for treating Lyme. There does seem to be a lack of science and I do believe some supplemental treatments do help but I'm not giving up on my current doctor yet as I've mostly been free for symptoms for many months and I'm back on the road to feeling well again.

Girlie
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Date Joined May 2014
Total Posts : 33798
   Posted 2/24/2018 4:49 PM (GMT -6)   
skitoro said...
Girlie,

I read the information for new members and even looked at some of the LLMD docs. Frankly I wasn't very impressed that most of the LLMDs don't take insurance. To me this is a red flag that their work may not be verifiable and supportable. Too much snake oil for me.

I am interested in hearing what people do to supplement their treatment but it appears this forum may not be the right place for me.

I do understand that some people need different treatments and possibly need combinations of treatments but the science does show mono therapies do work.

Sorry to be so blunt but I've had good luck with my Doctor who has a good reputation for treating Lyme. There does seem to be a lack of science and I do believe some supplemental treatments do help but I'm not giving up on my current doctor yet as I've mostly been free for symptoms for many months and I'm back on the road to feeling well again.


No, they don't take insurance because they get hassled for treating patients with lyme long-term...and with multiple antibiotics. it's not snake oil. I know many people who are in remission by treating with abx.
Monotherapy (antibiotic) does often work when the infection is caught early - as in the first several weeks before it becomes chronic.
If you don't choose abx to treat that is your decision...many do. But, if you do choose the antibiotic route..it should be with a LL Dr.

This forum supports members who choose not to go the antibiotic route. But, I so suggest you do a protocol to treat lyme and co's. - one that has shown success with people.
Magnesium/diet isn't enough. I haven't seen any science to back up magnesium and diet for lyme treatment.

I'm glad you are back on the road to feeling well...

There is a lot of support here...and I hope you do stick around.

Are you doing much for detoxing?
Moderator, Lyme Forum
Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

Post Edited (Girlie) : 2/24/2018 2:52:44 PM (GMT-7)


goshawk
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Date Joined Sep 2016
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   Posted 2/25/2018 5:05 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi and welcome to our forum,

Glad you have found us but sorry that you have Lyme.

Girlie has already given you some very good information and advice.

I would just like to add that the Lyme bacteria has three different forms:Spirochete Form,Cell Wall-Deficient Form and Cyst form .Due to this use of mono therapy does not hit/kill all of the forms.

There are also co infections. The Lyme bacteria rarely travels alone and if your having symptoms still it would also be wise to either test for the or have an Lyme literate clinically diagnosis you for co infections.

It is now known that if symptoms persist or come back after initial early treatment the use of two or more antibiotics is needed.

There are other treatments members here use like, herbals, bee venom therapy, HBOT and more.

This forum offers an opportunity to share ideas, offers support and ask questions to help us on our path of healing.

Take care and I wish you the est of healing, Jo

Missouri
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Date Joined Sep 2017
Total Posts : 394
   Posted 2/26/2018 11:54 AM (GMT -6)   
Pretty sure this is just a troll from a strange website.

If you haven't read up on the articles here is a link to one of their most recent:

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/another-chronic-lyme-vip-disciplined-by-ny-medical-authorities-bernard-raxlen/

Once you start reading these articles, it's hard to stop. Especially the comments- wowza some interesting dialogue.

I often wondered where these 'Lyme Wars' debates were taking place. This is the closest I have found. You will see many doctors justify their non-treatment of patients. It's a very strange place.

Skitoro- If you are not a troll, I am sorry. It seems too coincidental: the words you are choosing along with tossing the acupuncture and probiotics at the end. Both of which I have read articles at SBM. If you are not troll, again I am sorry, I will try to help you any way I can.

If you are an SBM troll, I just want to say that I do agree with several of your "club's" articles. I am very skeptical by nature and enjoy reading many of the articles there even though I often disagree. I invite you to engage in open debate here. I lack much in the way of higher level scientific learning, but we have several members that do have advanced science degrees.

This post may get me in trouble, but I can't resist. It's just too coincidental... :0
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