Anyone try SamE or Tryptophan for depression?

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Xabian
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   Posted 2/25/2018 5:02 PM (GMT -6)   
Buhner mentions tryptophan and/or SamE for depression caused by Lyme. Has anyone had success here with these?

Lyme depression is very strange for me (sure others can relate). It's not like "my dog died.. I'm sad", but is just there for no underlying thought process - as if it just dwells there like a black cloud that cannot be explained. I have a positive underlying outlook on life and it's like I'm trapped inside a weird alternate reality that seems inevitably doomed. Not trying to sound so dark and bring people down, for I'm not always in this state. There are moments when I do surface and see light. Hoping to cure this symptom by healing damage that has been done. I do believe the body is capable of amazing feats if given the right conditions.

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BabsBunny
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   Posted 2/25/2018 5:15 PM (GMT -6)   
I take 5 HTP, which is what tryptophan converts to before changing into serotonin. I also take GABA for anxiety. In addition to Rx Wellbutrin. I'd say I have "success" in that I always bounce back, but as long as the pathogens are causing inflammation, and we are struggling and stressed by this illness, I think depression is inevitable.

The biggest help for me is diet - I've found that as my food sensitivities develop, many are manifest in mental disorders. After keeping a food-and-mood diary, I found that the days I eat corn or milk, I'm very cranky. After 1 or 2 days in a row of peanuts, I become very depressed. Cutting these out has helped me keep my head above water.

Xabian
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   Posted 2/25/2018 5:26 PM (GMT -6)   
BabsBunny said...
I take 5 HTP, which is what tryptophan converts to before changing into serotonin. I also take GABA for anxiety. In addition to Rx Wellbutrin. I'd say I have "success" in that I always bounce back, but as long as the pathogens are causing inflammation, and we are struggling and stressed by this illness, I think depression is inevitable.

The biggest help for me is diet - I've found that as my food sensitivities develop, many are manifest in mental disorders. After keeping a food-and-mood diary, I found that the days I eat corn or milk, I'm very cranky. After 1 or 2 days in a row of peanuts, I become very depressed. Cutting these out has helped me keep my head above water.


Thanks for your input. I have been on Terry Wahl's paleo (autoimmune diet) for about 2 months which has helped. No sugar, no gluten, no dairy, no legumes, no grains, low end on high glycemic foods. Pretty much healthy fats, oranic meat, organ meat, probiotic such as sauerkraut, fruits, veggies, seeds and nuts. I have been enjoying the diet so far. Do you think it is necessary for a food allergy test? I have read that they can be inaccurate. Not sure what to think on this. confused

BabsBunny
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   Posted 2/25/2018 6:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Xabian said...
Do you think it is necessary for a food allergy test? I have read that they can be inaccurate. Not sure what to think on this. confused


No. It was a huge waste of money for me, and if my doc had told me he was ordering it, and I was thinking clearly, I would have refused. The blood tests aren't all that reliable to begin with, but the problem here is that we don't actually have "allergies" to food proteins. It's a sensitivity probably caused by leaky gut letting foreign particles in the body/brain and the responses are wide-ranging from bloating, itching, congestion, to mood swings, depression, etc. It seems to be one of those things that mainstream medicine doesn't really understand or recognize yet.

If your depression is pretty constant, it's probably just the Lyme. I personally hate pharmaceuticals (withdrawal from antidepressants is what triggered my Lyme) but if you're desperate to survive, they can be helpful, but proceed with caution. I've found Ativan for anxiety attacks to be so helpful, that I *almost* don't care what its doing to my brain. I would recommend herbals, such as you asked about, first.

if you have good days and bad days at random, it might be worth tracking your food (its much easier on a clean diet with simple ingredients - if you're eating processed food, you need to list every ingredient and that is tedious!), and write down how you feel in a parallel column. After a few weeks, find your bad times, and note what you ate the day of or the day before. Something might pop out. It might be a medication, too - if you just started a new drug or herb, they can cause side effects, or a herxheimer can take days to weeks to come out.
Lyme, Babesia, Bartonella. Symptoms began 5/2016, didn't start treatment until 9/2016. Slow but steady recovery.

*twitch twitch*

Xabian
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   Posted 2/25/2018 7:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for all your useful information. smile You have been helpful. I am going to my best to try the natural route, for I don't prefer pharmaceuticals either. I will use them for last resort though. Fingers crossed.
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