I don't seem to get the flu (and I think that's a problem)

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Eiren
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   Posted 2/26/2018 4:08 AM (GMT -6)   
So my kids have come down sick a few times this winter. They go to school, and pick up stuff, ya'know. Recently, my oldest came down with the bad thing that's going around, sick for a week with fever, finally took him to the doctor because he got ear pain on top of it, and got some amox and got better.

So here's the thing - I usually get my kid's sickness. They sneeze in my face, I wipe their boogers, etc. But this time - not really. There's been times I thought "oh no, I'm coming down with it" and then I just...don't.

I thought maybe it was because of all the Vit. C and zink and other supplements I take. But then again, I have generally low body temperature. Like the other day I was feeling cold, so I took my temperature and it was 35.4C. I started a Tai Chi class at a place that includes unlimited sauna time, and last Wednesday after class I used it again for a bit longer. During the last minute of the dry sauna I started feeling really bad, with a horrible fuzzy feeling in my ears. And since then I've continued to feel bad, with aching ears, scratchy throat, fatigue, more aches and pains, you know, like the flu. But my temp barely breaks 36.5, even when I feel warm.

I'm thinking that maybe my immune system is so cooked that it just isn't mounting a proper response to the flu viruses going around. So I have the flu, but not getting the normal symptoms of it. Does that make sense?

Being in the sauna induces higher body temp, so maybe that started a "kill the flu" response. But now I'm sitting around cold and my body can't finish knocking out the flu, maybe. Maybe I should go back to the sauna today and see if I can help my body cook it out some more?

But what's the name for this? Immune deficiency I guess, but I thought that was where you're prone to getting really sick because you're immunocompromised (like AIDS). Does that also describe the body not able to mount a response to minor viral infections? Is there a diagnosis for this?

I feel kinda stupid, complaining that I don't get really sick with a fever. But if that means I have viral infections running rampant....that's a problem, yes?

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   Posted 2/26/2018 4:22 AM (GMT -6)   

Eiren
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   Posted 2/26/2018 5:15 AM (GMT -6)   
LymeSick 🌟 said...
Hey this might interest you:

/www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3620488



Thanks!

I knew there had to be something buried down in the history, but I wasn't having luck getting google to fetch anything I wanted.

Reading through it now...

Yeah, I never got flu symptoms when I first got Lyme either. In fact, the day we noticed the huge bulls eye on the back of my leg I felt really fantastic.

Eiren
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   Posted 2/26/2018 5:54 AM (GMT -6)   
Part 2 of that thread /www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3623316

So I already do some immune-supporting things.

But I came across inosine in a CFS discussion. Anyone with lyme try that one? It's an immune modulator, but it's much cheaper than the mushrooms things.

At less than $10, it might be worth a try.

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   Posted 2/26/2018 11:09 AM (GMT -6)   
Cat's claw helped me feel warmer, before taking it my hands and feet were always freezing.

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   Posted 2/26/2018 2:08 PM (GMT -6)   
I did not get the flu last year when kids got it. Like everything, I’ve heard various theories. I always thought immune deficiency but I’ve also heard hyper-immunity. Like our body is on high alert with these bugs so it quickly knocks out the small stuff. Who knows. I get stomach bugs but not really viral things.

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   Posted 2/26/2018 2:18 PM (GMT -6)   
k07 said...
I did not get the flu last year when kids got it. Like everything, I’ve heard various theories. I always thought immune deficiency but I’ve also heard hyper-immunity. Like our body is on high alert with these bugs so it quickly knocks out the small stuff. Who knows. I get stomach bugs but not really viral things.


I'm thinking hyper immunity, too, K07.

I rarely got the flu or colds throughout my life. I don't think it means my immune system is suppressed...because I believe we'd get it really bad if that's the case.

If immune suppression means you don't have symptoms...then why do the elderly have a higher risk of getting the flu and being hospitalized? We know as we age, our immune system wanes.
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   Posted 2/26/2018 3:44 PM (GMT -6)   
I didn't start getting sick in the traditional sense (is the word, I guess) until within the last year or so.

I don't know how to take it, because I don't feel that much better than I have for the past few years. I wouldn't say my current protocol et living arrangement are doing much in the way of getting me better as opposed to just keeping me from getting worse.

I went from 2008 until 2017 without so much as even the faintest symptoms of anything that felt close to what being ill was like before I got infected.

I've had 3-4 episodes within the last year where I've developed a cough, fatigue, congestion, just the general malaise that goes along with being sick. They're not "normal" symptoms for me.

Curious if it's some viral aspect of the matrix that's always existed in me, just hasn't had its chance to surface much, for whatever reason, or if I'm finally reacting to my environment again.
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Eiren
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   Posted 2/27/2018 8:01 AM (GMT -6)   
acarined said...
Cat's claw helped me feel warmer, before taking it my hands and feet were always freezing.


I've been taking cat's claw, but I'm still cold, unfortunately.

I appreciate you mentioning it though.

I'm kinda in a weird place. I search the internet to find things to help me but....all the suggestions are things I already do.

Like, to increase body heat. I went to a blog promising to tell me an easy way to get warmer. The secret? Eat coconut oil. Oh, I already do that everyday.

Maybe I'd be even worse if I didn't do these things. Who knows.

Eiren
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   Posted 2/27/2018 8:06 AM (GMT -6)   
Well, I went to the sauna again last evening.

Didn't stay quite so long in the dry sauna, but stayed a minute or so past the point where my ears hurting and feeling the blood pound in my head.

I feel better today.

Short bouts of hyperthermia seem helpful for me for...something.

After I get really warmed up and sweating my feet and calves start tingling/pinching/twitching. I want to think that's the bad bugs dying.
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