German study finds Lyme in mosquitoes

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Lapis_29
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   Posted 2/26/2018 7:52 PM (GMT -6)   
www.shoutoutaboutme.com/tick-borne-illness/german-study-finds-borrelia-in-mosquitoes/

Researchers have found the pathogens that cause Lyme disease in mosquitoes for the first time in central Europe.

Lyme disease or Lyme borreliosis is a vector-borne infectious disease caused by spirochetes of the Borrelia burgdorferi sensu lato complex.

In the present study, adult as well as larval mosquitoes were collected at 42 different geographical locations throughout Germany.

This is the first study to analyze German mosquitoes for the presence of Borrelia spp.

The team found Borrelia DNA in ten Culicidae species of mosquito, comprising four distinct genera (Aedes, Culiseta, Culex, and Ochlerotatus).

The Sal
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   Posted 2/26/2018 8:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Well crap.

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   Posted 2/26/2018 11:26 PM (GMT -6)   
The Sal said...
Well crap.


crappity crap.



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astroman
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   Posted 2/27/2018 12:57 AM (GMT -6)   
So possibly in time, humans living beyond a desert are screwed.

?

Psilociraptor
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   Posted 2/27/2018 9:02 AM (GMT -6)   
Link doesn't work for me. Anyways, lets just remember that being present in a mosquito doesn't mean being effectively transmitted in a mosquito. Sure, it might be a risk. But possibly much less than a tick which has coevolved with the pathogen to spread it effectively

astroman
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   Posted 2/27/2018 9:50 AM (GMT -6)   
Ticks regurgitate before drawing in blood, thats how they transmit.

mosquitoes might just suck?
Had initial lyme symptoms late 80's, then again and with bullseye early 90's. Ended ABX for Lyme in 2015. Rebuilding / fine tuning / fixing muscles since then; member "10 Percenters Lyme Club". What an adventure this has been. Hashimotos adds to the enjoyment.

RedLabel
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   Posted 2/27/2018 10:05 AM (GMT -6)   
Yes, they suck bigtime
Lyme, CPN, Yersinia, Coxsackie, CMV and Bartonella after LLMD visit.
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Started treatment in May 2017
Currently on Azithromycin, Doxycycline, Plaquenil, Rifampicin, Delimmun

Lapis_29
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   Posted 2/27/2018 10:29 AM (GMT -6)   
Psilociraptor said...
Link doesn't work for me. Anyways, lets just remember that being present in a mosquito doesn't mean being effectively transmitted in a mosquito. Sure, it might be a risk. But possibly much less than a tick which has coevolved with the pathogen to spread it effectively


yes, good point

1000Daisies
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   Posted 2/27/2018 11:43 AM (GMT -6)   
But this isn't "new" news, right? I mean, I read about mosquitos carrying lyme bacteria several years back but that they haven't proven transmission yet. Just a matter of time?

Mosquitos transmit a lot of diseases worldwide. It is extremely concerning in general.

Per Wikipedia (bold emphasis is mine):

"Mosquito-borne diseases or mosquito-borne illnesses are diseases caused by bacteria, viruses or parasites transmitted by mosquitoes. They can transmit disease without being affected themselves. Nearly 700 million people get a mosquito borne illness each year resulting in over one million deaths.

Diseases transmitted by mosquitoes include: malaria, dengue, West Nile virus, chikungunya, yellow fever, filariasis, tularemia, dirofilariasis, Japanese encephalitis, Saint Louis encephalitis, Western equine encephalitis, Eastern equine encephalitis, Venezuelan equine encephalitis, Ross River fever, Barmah Forest fever, La Crosse encephalitis, and Zika fever."

1000Daisies
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   Posted 2/27/2018 11:48 AM (GMT -6)   
astroman said...
Ticks regurgitate before drawing in blood, thats how they transmit.

mosquitoes might just suck?


Must be more complicated than that because mosquitos transmit a lot of diseases to humans!

What always amazed me is this golden rule that a "tick must be attached to its host" for like 24hours (or whatever) before it will transmit one of the pathogens, but yet mosquitos can bite in a second and transmit a terrible disease. I never read a good argument that backs up why/how this would be true for a tick being attached for so long before it transmits a disesase. Most people don't believe this, and it doesn't make logical sense to me.

astroman
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   Posted 2/27/2018 12:01 PM (GMT -6)   
In ticks, lyme comes from their gut, they puke it in you before sucking. They might do that when finished to. Yes that contradicts the whole time frame thing.

Transmission might depend on the pathogen, how it harbors ect
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10LymeB
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   Posted 2/27/2018 12:43 PM (GMT -6)   
Yeah, that's how I got Lyme.

Mosquito bite in Paris Summer of 2013. Foot swelled up double its size, couldn't walk on it. Got home to USA, digestion never recovered. Symptoms manifested slowly over the next two years - first with central serous retinopathy and then small panic attacks that turned into massive ones.
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hidethepain
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   Posted 3/2/2018 9:26 PM (GMT -6)   
10LymeB said...
Yeah, that's how I got Lyme.

Mosquito bite in Paris Summer of 2013. Foot swelled up double its size, couldn't walk on it. Got home to USA, digestion never recovered. Symptoms manifested slowly over the next two years - first with central serous retinopathy and then small panic attacks that turned into massive ones.


I see in your signature that BPC 157 helped you.
Did you inject it or how does it work?

Raleighgirlie
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   Posted 3/2/2018 9:37 PM (GMT -6)   
I wouldn't be surprised if that's how I got Lyme. Mosquitos LOVE me and I never saw a tick/had a rash or was even in a wooded area at all the summer I got Lyme.

magoo2
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   Posted 3/2/2018 10:18 PM (GMT -6)   
I think the better question is why do most not get lyme?

astroman
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   Posted 3/2/2018 10:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Reading up on skeeters yesterday, they ALSO regurgitate into you before sucking. Great.

mudshark
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   Posted 3/2/2018 11:44 PM (GMT -6)   
I already hated mosquitos but this takes it to the next level.

Georgia Hunter
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   Posted 3/3/2018 2:50 AM (GMT -6)   
The real question is how long does it take for the Osp on borrelia to change so they are not detected by our immune response. A mosquito that harbors borrelia should be able to transfer it to a human during a bite, but will the Osp be detected? At this point, science thinks it would not cause disease. I'm starting to wonder if a small percentage of people would get infected.

borrelioburgdorferii
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   Posted 3/3/2018 5:44 AM (GMT -6)   
Fun fact: Mosquitos are the most prolific killer of human beings in all of human history.

Source: Bill Gates sponsored documentary named eponymously and appropriately: Mosquito.

Another fun fact /s... What's the most dangerous animal in North America?

Take a wild guess!

Starts with "T" ...and ends with "ick"!

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Bathsheba
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   Posted 3/3/2018 6:25 AM (GMT -6)   
Lapis_29 I'm a new member.......I thought I put up a post about rifing for aspergillus niger but I can't find it now........maybe I haven't done it correctly 😫
Can I ask about your experience please? How do I do that?

missy_j78
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   Posted 3/3/2018 7:35 AM (GMT -6)   
Yep, I got Lyme from a mosquito bite in Central Park, NY in 2008.

Lapis_29
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   Posted 3/3/2018 9:46 AM (GMT -6)   
Bathsheba said...
Lapis_29 I'm a new member.......I thought I put up a post about rifing for aspergillus niger but I can't find it now........maybe I haven't done it correctly 😫
Can I ask about your experience please? How do I do that?


which rife machine do you have?

my advice is to go here and download both the aspergillus niger and Aspergillus fumigatus frequencies and use those


http://www.dnafrequencies.com/store/index.pl?type=human

Bathsheba
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   Posted 3/3/2018 10:20 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Lapis_29, I'll have a look at that.
How long did it take to get rid if yours and how often did you Rife for it please?

Lapis_29
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   Posted 3/3/2018 10:28 AM (GMT -6)   
Bathsheba said...
Thanks Lapis_29, I'll have a look at that.
How long did it take to get rid if yours and how often did you Rife for it please?


I am still dealing with the mold, but the rifing helps out quite a bit. problem is that it only kills the mold, but it doenst necessarily stop you from being super sensitive to mold, so anytime you come in contact with mold again you are back in the thick of it.

when its bad I will do the mold frequencies all night long while i sleep. helps to clear out my head.

what model of rife do you have ?

astroman
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   Posted 3/3/2018 12:00 PM (GMT -6)   
If swarms of skeeters start infecting with lyme in the US by the masses, it will become quite obvious considering there are large regions where its 100% impossible to avoid mosquito bites, unless you live in a bubble. 5 just mowing your lawn on a July evening- average if your successful in swatting off all the other 25+.
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