When I brought up Bartonella being my main problem with Dr. J in DC he said yeah its there and we'll clean it up later. He's of the opinion babesia is a far bigger problem than bart.
I know we have Dr. M the Bart guru and those that say bart is tougher to treat than other pathogens and that may be true for some but i tend to agree with other posters here that overall its not as big of a problem as other infections.
Make sure you don't have babesia that can blocking healing other infections.
Best way to nail bart IMO is the rifamycin class of meds.
Does anyone understand WHY Dr J or any other doctor believes babesia is the problem? Is this true when the majority of symptoms, including responses to treatment, seem to indicate bartonella? I'm taking herbs that hit both bart and babs and I have yet to trigger any symptom response that screams babesia to me. Of course, I've read numerous descript
ions of the coinfection symptoms by various experts and some of them seem to completely flip the two.I think it's because of the years of treating and seeing patterns. He has been at this for many years. I'm thinking it must be at least 15 years. He also is an Infectious Disease Dr. (And was one of the first Dr.'s to treat HIV/Aids patients and developed the pulsed protocol with them. Even if the majority of symptoms indicate bartonella, he still treats Babesia.
Also, lots of overlap with symptoms. I think it's Dr. J. who said that the CNS issues can also be babesia...so I've all along been thinking my nerve pain is bart...but maybe it's not.
Dr. H. also talks about
asymptomatic babesia. He had a patient in a wheelchair...treated her for lyme (and also bart, I think) = she had no symptoms of babesia...Then he treated her for babs...and in a very short time she was out of the wheelchair.
My thoughts are: You can spend years treating one or two of the infections - say for instance Lyme and Bart...and not get well...and then maybe finally treat babs -
...or you can not waste any time and treat all three in a timely manner - like a year or two.
So the way I see it - Not treating something and continuing to be ill isn't good either. The longer it goes, the more I lose hope...so for me..I wish i had treated babesia a couple years ago... And in the long run, I will be on pharmaceuticals much longer postponing the babesia treatment.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi
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