Blood test ESR and CPR

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tonyaraven
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   Posted 3/23/2018 6:34 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi again, does any body know anything about these tests with Lyme disease? Mine have always been super low, which I guess is a goood thing. My llmd has never said anything about them except that if I had an auto immune disease like lupus or RA that they'd be elevated,so that is reassuring. It seems strange to be that Lyme and Co didn't cause any elevation and never has on my tests going back to the beginning in 2015. I do believe my main problem is more neurological but still puzzled! Anybody have any knowledge on these tests? My cd 57 is low too but obviously that one should be much higher. Thanks!

tonyaraven
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   Posted 3/23/2018 6:37 AM (GMT -6)   
Sorry, meant CRP not CPR!!!

Girlie
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   Posted 3/23/2018 8:34 AM (GMT -6)   
Mine weren’t elevated either

I had nothing indicating autoimmune
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tonyaraven
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   Posted 3/23/2018 9:33 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Girlie! If you haven't noticed already I tend to question everything! I wish there wasn't so much controversy about Lyme, because it gets in my head and I start to question if it's really what I have or if there is something else that nobody can figure out!! I'm going to try to be more positive and really trust my llmd. I'm starting rifampin today (it is 300mg not 100) trying not to be nervous about it but it's hard! Couldn't sleep last night which always makes things worse!

Jasperilla
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   Posted 3/23/2018 11:04 AM (GMT -6)   
When I first got sick, I had an elevated ESR & CRP. They both settled down after a couple of months. I also had a positive ANA (from your other post), but it was all Lyme related.

I don't really have any "knowledge" of these tests, per se, but they indicate inflammation (the ESR and CRP at least), which Lyme causes.

Notime4lyme
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   Posted 3/23/2018 11:29 AM (GMT -6)   
I think the CRP test is some kind of cardiac inflammatory marker. Mine was also high, and now it has come down.

Girlie
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   Posted 3/23/2018 12:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Notime4lyme said...
I think the CRP test is some kind of cardiac inflammatory marker. Mine was also high, and now it has come down.


CRP measures inflammation and can be elevated with RA, Lupus etc

hs-CRP is for cardiovascular disease risk (hs = highly sensitive )
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

Girlie
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   Posted 3/23/2018 12:26 PM (GMT -6)   
tonyaraven said...
Thanks Girlie! If you haven't noticed already I tend to question everything! I wish there wasn't so much controversy about Lyme, because it gets in my head and I start to question if it's really what I have or if there is something else that nobody can figure out!! I'm going to try to be more positive and really trust my llmd. I'm starting rifampin today (it is 300mg not 100) trying not to be nervous about it but it's hard! Couldn't sleep last night which always makes things worse!


I question everything too - and get all worked up/worried
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

tonyaraven
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   Posted 3/23/2018 1:54 PM (GMT -6)   
I guess we have a right to question everything and to get worked up since this disease really messes with the brain!!

Raleighgirlie
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   Posted 3/23/2018 6:31 PM (GMT -6)   
I question everything too. I always wonder is it lyme related, is it because I am getting older, do I have something else plus Lyme, etc. Being I tested positive for Lyme years ago and about every symptom in the book can relate to Lyme I don't know how to really know and just assume Lyme is the cause as it messes with your brain, tissues, nervous system, thyroid, adrenals...basically everything.

tonyaraven
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   Posted 3/23/2018 7:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes!! It's so very depressing!

sandyfeet
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   Posted 3/24/2018 9:57 AM (GMT -6)   
My ANA and CRP were both good when I had them tested. In fact the one and only upside from dealing with my MD for the past few years is finding out that I'm in absolutely perfect health, apparently I just complain too much ;-D

The normal CRP surprised me as my biggest problems seemed to be inflammation related when I was trying to puzzle things out without believing it could be lyme. I noticed at the time that CRP is sometimes high with Lyme and sometimes not - I've been wondering if it's one of the cos causing it to be low - it's what first caused me to suspect bart but for no particularly sound reason that I can point to.

I wish I'd tested CD57 and CD4 I think that would have added something to the picture.
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OptimisTick
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   Posted 3/24/2018 9:56 PM (GMT -6)   
My ESR and CRP were always elevated for over 10 years. Not one doctor was concerned they were 2x higher what the max range should be. I tried every diet, exercise, nothing worked. I found my LLND and she tested my ANA, which came out negative and my CD57 and that one was in the dumps. She feels it is all related to Lyme and co's. I'm on LDN now and will probably give it a few more months before I test my esr and crp again. Crossing fingers it goes down
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