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   Posted 3/23/2018 2:10 PM (GMT -6)   
I do get an increase of feeling yucky after taking buhners herbs for Bart. The symptoms are mainly tinnitus increase. Head pressure, buzzing in the feet, and dpression. Lately I have been detox in quite a bit and a new symptom have arrived. I been having sharp nerve pain.

I get to a llmd next month. My questions are will these if I had auto immune response would these herbs do more harm than good? Currently taking sida, houttyina, Hawthorne, Knotweed, and ashwagand.

Would the excaberate and auto immune response? Maybe it's a her reaction?

New thing I'm dealing with is sharp nerve pain in my extremities. Nourapathy has gotten better. Pain are in my lower back hips, neck and elbows.

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   Posted 3/23/2018 2:15 PM (GMT -6)   
No, I don't believe those herbs would do harm if you have an autoimmune response.

Don't take Astragalus though...if you're concerned about that. It's not recommended with chronic lyme for that reason.

Some people (maybe most) with chronic lyme do have some auto immune response happening...and take herbs and/or antibiotics.
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   Posted 3/23/2018 2:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you. I never had nerve pain before that's why I had to ask.

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   Posted 3/23/2018 2:55 PM (GMT -6)   
I get pain in my tissues that feels like it's from toxins coming out of my tissues. I get that when I'm herxing.

Head pressure is typically a babesia symptom. Sida acuta will address babesia, too. As you continue treating bartonella you may find you get more symptoms that indicate other infections, like babesia.

I find kudzu root helps with my head symptoms and brain inflammation. Bidens pilosa is also a very good systemic herb in the babesia protocol that you may want to add at some point.

I have pain in my lower back, hips, neck and elbows. Mine feels like muscle or tendon inflammation and my hip bones get sore to the touch. I've had sharp pains in the ends of my fingers and toes, too.
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