After Starting Nystatin and Lauricidin Feeling Very Sick

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NicHostetler
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   Posted 3/24/2018 4:09 PM (GMT -6)   
I’ve been taking lauricidin for about a week now - 30 pellets a day. It made me feel much more tired and gave me headaches so I figured it was doing good.

I then added 1ml of liquid nystatin last night and woke up at 1am with a drenching night sweat. My sinuses were hurting, my ears were plugged up and I was sooo dizzy.This scares me because I’m not sure what it is.. babesia? A herx from yeast die off? Then I woke up this morning and felt horrible. Extreme brain fog and headaches and very very veryyyy weak. I took molybdenum and it helped maybe 20% but still felt awful.

Now tonight everything is getting terrible again. I’m so weak I can barely lift my arms and my head just feels so cloudy and dizzy plus heart palpitations. I’m also having shortness of breath too and just feel shakey.

I’ve been detoxing but nothing really helps all that much...

It’s so hard to know if this is a big yeast die off and if it is, I’m kind of scared because I know that yeast in itself is a monster and I haven’t even tried hitting bartonella yet with my rifampin.

Has anyone else experienced these symptoms when treating yeast and does the herx only last a few days and then get way better?

Post Edited (NicHostetler) : 3/24/2018 5:09:21 PM (GMT-6)


sierraDon
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   Posted 3/24/2018 4:18 PM (GMT -6)   
I am taking Lauricidin, it took me a month and half to get to 2 scoops daily. there are about 80 pellets in a scoop. i also took nystatin twice a day for about 3 weeks. i am now finished with nystatin, but still continuing with Lauricidin.

usually after taking the lauricidin i experience some tiredness, some dizziness...but it hasn't been extreme like you are describing.

did you ramp up taking the lauricidin?

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   Posted 3/24/2018 6:02 PM (GMT -6)   
Nic
I can't really be much help because I don't know myself what's going on but my symptoms are so simple to yours. I'm on nystatin too but these symptoms started before I even was in nystatin.

I was ok during the day today (not great. NEVER GREAT. But manageable) and all of a sudden about 6 o'clock I started with the off balance feeling the lightheaded feeling, neck pain, tingling on head, shakyness etc. just feeling horrible. I don't know why either. Just like you. I think its lyme and co in my opinion

Why are you on nystatin? Does your dr think you have candida? My dr is treating me for leaky gut right now. I'm on several supplements for that. But I had all these symptoms before the treatment that I am on now.

I'm at my wits end. And yes. Its very scary!!!

ChickenArise
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   Posted 3/25/2018 9:31 AM (GMT -6)   
Anti fungal die off will be extremely difficult to tolerate as it happens it is releasing toxins into the system. I was forced off these meds several times early on but I got back on within a week so as not to allow resistance to develop. I lowered doses until I could tolerate increased doses. This will be a heck of a marathon for you but I believe you are on the right track by treating the fungal aspects.

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NicHostetler
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   Posted 3/25/2018 2:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Okay so I'm not feeling as terrible as I did when I started but still pretty bad.

Just taking 1ml of liquid nystatin twice daily (working my way up to 10ml twice a day) and 30 pellets of lauricidin twice a day.

I still have lots of brain fog, I feel dizzy, and headahces. Plus very weak and fatigued.

Is it ok to take rifampin with nystatin? or should I switch to something herbal for yeast after another couple weeks when I want to start rifampin and zithromax?

ChickenArise
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   Posted 3/26/2018 12:04 AM (GMT -6)   
NicHostetler said...
Okay so I'm not feeling as terrible as I did when I started but still pretty bad.

Just taking 1ml of liquid nystatin twice daily (working my way up to 10ml twice a day) and 30 pellets of lauricidin twice a day.

I still have lots of brain fog, I feel dizzy, and headahces. Plus very weak and fatigued.

Is it ok to take rifampin with nystatin? or should I switch to something herbal for yeast after another couple weeks when I want to start rifampin and zithromax?


I took Fluconazole with Doxycycline (works better together) and did Nystatin cycles. I had no luck with Rifampin but I had to come off of it after 6 weeks due to a rare spleen complication with the medication which cleared after I stopped taking Rifampin. Then I tried CSA thinking I still had to go after Bartonella.

I was making zero progress treating for Bart, so I shifted my focus back to treating as if it were all fungal issues that were remaining and achieved the progress I was looking for. If it were me I would focus on the fungal.

Nascent Iodine helped the brain fog and fatigue. I started at 3mcg and worked my way up to 15mcg and leveled out there for a while minimizing all other halide intake such a bromine (bread), Chlorine, and Fluoride so the iodine could do its thing without interference.

I took this in conjunction with Fluconazole. After stopping Fluconazole I focus on Spanish Black Radish to clear what Fluconazole cannot. Oregano oil, Olive Leaf, artichoke, Magnesium are my main supplements. I rotate binders (currently Modified Citrus Pectin. The first 2 months on this did wonders in conjunction with Lauricidin) and take fucoidan to prevent fungal related cancer.

I am also continuing the Carnicom Protocol and dont get wierd skin sensations so long as I take it. It believe the Carnicom Protocol can help all of us regardless of the invaders.

I stayed on an Fluconazole the whole time I treated with antibiotics. The only time I stopped was when I was on Itraconazole.

I used Zithro but I preferred Clarithromycin and was regretting the switch as it was more difficult for me to tolerate. I took milk thistle and dandelion for liver and kidney support while on all the meds.

I hope you make the right call.

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Post Edited (ChickenArise) : 3/26/2018 12:37:25 AM (GMT-6)


NicHostetler
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   Posted 3/26/2018 6:07 AM (GMT -6)   
ChickenArise said...
NicHostetler said...
Okay so I'm not feeling as terrible as I did when I started but still pretty bad.

Just taking 1ml of liquid nystatin twice daily (working my way up to 10ml twice a day) and 30 pellets of lauricidin twice a day.

I still have lots of brain fog, I feel dizzy, and headahces. Plus very weak and fatigued.

Is it ok to take rifampin with nystatin? or should I switch to something herbal for yeast after another couple weeks when I want to start rifampin and zithromax?


I took Fluconazole with Doxycycline (works better together) and did Nystatin cycles. I had no luck with Rifampin but I had to come off of it after 6 weeks due to a rare spleen complication with the medication which cleared after I stopped taking Rifampin. Then I tried CSA thinking I still had to go after Bartonella.

I was making zero progress treating for Bart, so I shifted my focus back to treating as if it were all fungal issues that were remaining and achieved the progress I was looking for. If it were me I would focus on the fungal.

Nascent Iodine helped the brain fog and fatigue. I started at 3mcg and worked my way up to 15mcg and leveled out there for a while minimizing all other halide intake such a bromine (bread), Chlorine, and Fluoride so the iodine could do its thing without interference.

I took this in conjunction with Fluconazole. After stopping Fluconazole I focus on Spanish Black Radish to clear what Fluconazole cannot. Oregano oil, Olive Leaf, artichoke, Magnesium are my main supplements. I rotate binders (currently Modified Citrus Pectin. The first 2 months on this did wonders in conjunction with Lauricidin) and take fucoidan to prevent fungal related cancer.

I am also continuing the Carnicom Protocol and dont get wierd skin sensations so long as I take it. It believe the Carnicom Protocol can help all of us regardless of the invaders.

I stayed on an Fluconazole the whole time I treated with antibiotics. The only time I stopped was when I was on Itraconazole.

I used Zithro but I preferred Clarithromycin and was regretting the switch as it was more difficult for me to tolerate. I took milk thistle and dandelion for liver and kidney support while on all the meds.

I hope you make the right call.


I agree that I am probably on the right track with fighting fungal issues, but I do have a positive bartonella test that I have yet to address.

It would be nice to hit both at the same time. But I think I saw that nystatin should not be taken with Rifampin and same with milk thistle. Is this true?

When did you see progress with fungal issues? I am so foggy and dizzy its terrible. I am taking Molybdenum and that is helping some but not very much.

ChickenArise
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   Posted 3/26/2018 9:37 PM (GMT -6)   
This will be a marathon not a sprint. You are already hurting. The more drugs you add the less you will be aware of what is causing which side effect. Maybe you could add one new treatment item each week tops but I would consider increasing the time between additions. Keep a daily health diary and log of what you added and how you feel day to day. Note any improvements or drawbacks.

You are doing well to check contraindications. If you see them they are there for a reason. You must be extremely careful.

I wish I could help more with Rifampin but I cant as I did not have enough experience with this. All I can safely say is the anxiety increased when starting Rifampin and this is common. I am glad that I reviewed the major side effects of it again 6 weeks into taking it as it wasnt right for me. Bart is so difficult to treat that you would do well to focus on the fungus. Killing it releases a large amount of toxins which adds to feeling rough.

All I can suggest for now is:

The Nascent Iodine helped with brain fog and the feeling of extreme listlessness. Use the Nascent kind as it is gentler on you but strong on the invaders. I started with 3mcg and went up by 1mcg per day until I hit 15mcg and leveled out at this dose. I saw improvement in about 3 months from doing this.

Read this on iodine:
"Iodine is by far the best antibiotic, antiviral and antiseptic of all time." Dr. David Derry
/www.curezone.org/blogs/fm.asp?i=1413057

It is likely your thyroid could use the iodine boost as well as the disease was taking its toll on mine causing the extreme tiredness. The less Fluoride, Bromine (breads), and Chlorine we take the more effectively the iodine can work.

Adding Modified Citrus Pectin helped pull toxins out. It is really safe. I used it in conjunction with Lauricidin at 4g of each daily. I saw improvement in 2 months of this part of the treatment.

We take it step by step and get better over time. It took 3 years to get to 90% better. A regret of mine was adding too many items too close to each other. I would have gained a bit more insight if I hadnt added items at the same time.

Some things will make you feel worse before they make you feel better. It is ok to lower doses if it releases too many toxins into the system. This are plenty of good reasons to space new medicines a month apart and supplements a couple weeks apart so you get a better idea of what is doing what.

I would avoid sugars, breads, and pastas during this time along with any other fast carb.

A bone broth diet would be a good idea. I ate beef and chicken broths for a month straight and came back to it again, and it was a good thing. It is supportive of an antifungal diet. I added Himalayan salt to my broths which provides all of the trace minerals in its organic form without adding so much of anything that I had to be concerned about it.

Liposomal Vitamin C is a good addition as well.

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Post Edited (ChickenArise) : 3/26/2018 10:14:35 PM (GMT-6)

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