P41 band and Bartonella.

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   Posted 3/25/2018 10:22 AM (GMT -6)   
Is trur that p41 can appear when you have Bartonella?

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   Posted 3/25/2018 11:15 AM (GMT -6)   
Band 41 represents the flagella of a spirochete. Since Bart isn't a spirochete, i don't think so.
Syphillis, Relapsing Fever, Pintas and Yaws are others' besides lyme it could be.

Many LLMD's consider band 41 a significant marker for lyme.
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   Posted 3/25/2018 12:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Many of the population has band 41, must be some very simple spirochetes that dont even make us sick or are not even worth mentioning for this to happen.

If that much of the pop had lyme or syphilis, we would know.
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