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Szabo246
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   Posted 4/8/2018 5:24 AM (GMT -6)   
Anyone else have days where they have no discipline, I’m really bad, I have been on a relatively good diet but sometimes my willpower is so bad ( like this morning!) had my pancakes, felt so guilty after I took an activated charcoal🙄

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   Posted 4/8/2018 5:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Yes, but I manage some discipline especially with regards to sugar. I have seen zero health effects from a restricted diet (gluten, dairy and eggs). It's really hard to keep up the effort when you don't see any benefits
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   Posted 4/8/2018 5:53 AM (GMT -6)   
Yes me too, although my mind seems to even trick me into believing I sometimes feel better after having some of these foods!!

I’ve always had a sweet tooth and find it so so difficult refraining from these treats.

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   Posted 4/8/2018 9:39 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm hungry. Did you make me some pancakes?!!! Ha! Ha!

I can absolutely relate, and I do the same thing with charcoal. I tend to need snacks in the afternoon. I've been eating these Kind snack bars that only have 5g sugar. Sometimes, when I'm feeling really depressed, I just go all out and get flavored coffee from Starbucks or a cookie somewhere. I time the snacks right before I take 4 charcoal capsules. Then I worry I'm never going to remove toxins because my binders are all going towards food.

I've been feeling really, really bad for the past 2 weeks with sudden bouts of weakness, dizzyness, and lots of headaches. Yesterday, was particularly bad with yet another headache. Last night, I was craving a sandwich from Subway. I ate supper and still wanted to go to Subway, so I did. I got a sandwich and a bag of Doritos and brought them home. As soon as I started to eat it, the headache went away and I started feeling much better. I still feel better this morning.

I was having suspicions that hormone spikes/drops might be causing some of my horrible symptoms, and when I had this sudden appetite surge, I suspected hormones again. Sometimes, listening to your body helps. You just have to make sure it doesn't become a daily habit (super hard for me)!

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   Posted 4/8/2018 9:42 AM (GMT -6)   
WalkingbyFaith said...
I can absolutely relate, and I do the same thing with charcoal.


What are the health benefits with having charcoal after eating poorly? Never heard of that before.

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   Posted 4/8/2018 9:50 AM (GMT -6)   
atxlyme said...
WalkingbyFaith said...
I can absolutely relate, and I do the same thing with charcoal.


What are the health benefits with having charcoal after eating poorly? Never heard of that before.


Well, I wouldn't exactly call it "health benefits"! LOL!!!

Charcoal is a binder that many take to bind whatever toxins it is capable of binding to. It also binds to food/herbs/supplements so it needs to be taken 2 hours apart from those. If you ate something you shouldn't have, like a cookie, and took charcoal right before or after it, the charcoal will likely bind to some of it so it doesn't get absorbed by the body.

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   Posted 4/8/2018 10:00 AM (GMT -6)   
I would burn down a small city to be able to eat pancakes without having long term repercussions to my brain

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   Posted 4/8/2018 10:39 AM (GMT -6)   
WalkingbyFaith said...
Charcoal is a binder that many take to bind whatever toxins it is capable of binding to. It also binds to food/herbs/supplements so it needs to be taken 2 hours apart from those. If you ate something you shouldn't have, like a cookie, and took charcoal right before or after it, the charcoal will likely bind to some of it so it doesn't get absorbed by the body.


Interesting. 2 hours before I assume to get the effects? Is that a strategy a lot of people use to eat some bad foods once in a while?

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   Posted 4/8/2018 11:16 AM (GMT -6)   
atxlyme said...
WalkingbyFaith said...
Charcoal is a binder that many take to bind whatever toxins it is capable of binding to. It also binds to food/herbs/supplements so it needs to be taken 2 hours apart from those. If you ate something you shouldn't have, like a cookie, and took charcoal right before or after it, the charcoal will likely bind to some of it so it doesn't get absorbed by the body.


Interesting. 2 hours before I assume to get the effects? Is that a strategy a lot of people use to eat some bad foods once in a while?


2 hours apart from other things so it WON'T bind them.

I'm not advocating to take charcoal at the same time as eating "cheat foods" as a way of eating food that is bad for you. I'm just confessing that I've done it, though not as a planned intention. I just happen to want snacks in the late afternoon, which is typically when I take the charcoal and kind of hope the charcoal binds some of the bad stuff, while at the same time worrying that the charcoal isn't going to bind much other toxins because I've taken it closer than 2 hours before or after eating.

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   Posted 4/8/2018 11:19 AM (GMT -6)   
Ha Ha , I made a pancake cheat post too, about a year and a half ago.

I used some surprisingly good gluten free pancake mix. The maple syrup still didnt do it justice though. To end temptation, I threw it or gave it away (along with other tempting foods). Outa sight, outa mind. This would be really difficult if I lived with others, or was younger with all the social life going on.

After Thanksgiving 2016, eleven months after ABX, I started getting major gut issues again. After one month (and no Rx for it) I decided to go 100% clean natural eating for three months, plus no gluten or milk, never did 100% before. Did about 95% clean three more months through today. Never felt better, now I'm used to it, first three months was hell. I reserve my "cheating" for a few social events, but even then its very low volume.

I imagine eating clean would be more difficult if you cannot feel a difference, or see a difference in lab testing. Having leaky gut, systemic candida, autoimmune (and possibly SIBO) in the past gave me a reasons to clean up my diet. I felt way better with the change and labs reflected it to. Diet is an important part of my final healing.

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   Posted 4/8/2018 11:32 AM (GMT -6)   
atxlyme said...
WalkingbyFaith said...
Charcoal is a binder that many take to bind whatever toxins it is capable of binding to. It also binds to food/herbs/supplements so it needs to be taken 2 hours apart from those. If you ate something you shouldn't have, like a cookie, and took charcoal right before or after it, the charcoal will likely bind to some of it so it doesn't get absorbed by the body.


Interesting. 2 hours before I assume to get the effects? Is that a strategy a lot of people use to eat some bad foods once in a while?


Not me - I just eat the bad food. tongue
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   Posted 4/8/2018 11:38 AM (GMT -6)   
WBF - you know what I made for dinner last night?

Waffles

With strawberries and blueberries and of course whipped cream.

They were GF.

I even put a note on the leftovers telling my husband to save me one for breakfast.
(He’s always up early in the morning while I sleep )

I have been really good with the GF and limited dairy - but sugar??? fagettaboutit.

I’ve done the GF SF DF before with no benefits that I could tell.
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   Posted 4/8/2018 12:59 PM (GMT -6)   
Sugar is the only thing I manage to stay away from. My doctor only told me to stay away from that also.

Girlie. I use stevia instead. Not the same but good enough
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   Posted 4/8/2018 1:21 PM (GMT -6)   
RedLabel said...
Sugar is the only thing I manage to stay away from. My doctor only told me to stay away from that also.

Girlie. I use stevia instead. Not the same but good enough


I have xylitol - I should use that..although it’s part of my protocol and I only take it one week per month - so I guess it could mess with my treatment if I used it on other days.

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   Posted 4/8/2018 2:43 PM (GMT -6)   
When I eat too much bad food, I usually end up taking a charcoal, diatomaeceous earth, and clay mix about 6-24 hours later, because I get a stomachache that doesn't go away. It really seems to get rid of it. I also find that I can eat a much greater variety of foods since I started taking modified citrus pectin. I try not to have to take charcoal because I've heard that it can absorb herbs and supplements too.

Now I can eat grains okay and potatoes, but I have to be really careful, because it's really easy for me to go overboard on rice and stuff. I've been avoiding sugar for so long, I don't crave sugary things.

I can't eat doritos. Eating any type of corn chip makes me feel like I'm going to die in varying degrees. Doritos are the worst. I do fine with regular corn though.

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   Posted 4/8/2018 3:42 PM (GMT -6)   
You guys are just great smile always make me feel better even when I’m being a rebel ;)

WBF- come on over!! Haha wouldn’t it be great if we all lived close, we could eat this rubbish together make each other feel better about it and Pop some charcoal pills down!

Astroman- good point, getting rid of the temptation is a very good idea, difficult with a toddler but possible!

Girlie- another rebel in the pack! Yay! Sounds like you’re doing the GF thing really well, I haven’t even attempted that yet.

My pancakes set the tone for my whole day, I’ve been bad all day but will be starting my day tomorrow with my Green Vibrance smile

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   Posted 4/8/2018 3:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Aside from not eating shellfish - to which I have an allergy - I try not to restrict my diet.

Fortunately, I don't crave a lot of stuff that I used to eat, such as Cinnamon Toast Crunch cereal, cow's milk, ice cream, Dorito's, Sprite, candy bars, doughnuts, etc.

Now, the things I crave are Kerrygold butter, pastured eggs, pancakes/waffles (that I mix/cook at home), pure maple syrup, local honey, beans, white rice, sweet/white potatoes, Corn Flakes cereal (Whole Food Market's "365" brand), flax milk, gluten-free oatmeal, fresh/dried fruit, and the occasional cookie, slice of pie, and/or pizza - locally-made from recognizable ingredients.

Coming from a background of restrictive eating, I still battle thinking of foods as "good" and "bad." Maybe the war will never be won, but I just push-through and try to act normal. smile I remind myself there are various populations all over the world that eat, thrive, and are measurably healthy on a variety of diets.

Incidentally, last night, I also made some pancakes. It happened to be a gluten-free mix that had been in my pantry, unopened, for a while. I didn't have any syrup, so I topped them with a little Kerrygold butter and some local, sourwood honey.

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   Posted 4/8/2018 4:10 PM (GMT -6)   
My gf waffles are always homemade. And the blueberries and strawberries were frozen and I heated them up on the stove.

Szabo - I’m finding gf to be the easiest (compared to DF, SF) - maybe it’s because I had to have on hand and prepare food for my son who has celiac for several years.

Tonight’s dinner is chicken with curry sauce on brown rice.
It’s really no different than a gluten meal.
So chicken cooked in the oven - no gluten
Rice - no gluten
The curry sauce - butter, onions, chicken broth, milk, curry spice, and some brown rice flour to thicken
Broccoli and carrots cooked on the stove.
That’s it!


What I have been craving for dinner lately is a salad - with olive oil/ balsamic or red wine vinegar dressing with a little honey drizzled on top.

BTW - woke up and no leftover waffles. Hubby said he didn’t see my note!
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   Posted 4/8/2018 4:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Dude - what is Kerrygold butter?
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   Posted 4/8/2018 4:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Girlie said...
BTW - woke up and no leftover waffles. Hubby said he didn’t see my note!


Hmm... That smells suspicious! smile

Girlie said...
Dude - what is Kerrygold butter?


Kerrygold is a brand of butter imported from Ireland. The butter is made from the milk of pastured cows.

How's this for marketing?

"The winds, rain and warming influence of the Gulf Stream all contribute to the lush grass our cows feed on year-round. They produce the sweetest, richest milk in the world, which makes our grass-fed cow’s milk Irish butter taste silky and creamy and glow a healthy, golden yellow.

Kerrygold Salted Butter is a great all-purpose, all-natural butter. Spread it on a warm piece of crusty bread or serve it tableside with every meal. It’s also a wonderful butter for cooking. The grass-fed cow’s milk flavor elevates your dishes and makes Kerrygold the best-tasting butter."


/www.kerrygoldusa.com/products/salted-butter

Where I live, even one of the "regular" grocery stores is carrying milk from A2 cows, rather than A1 cows. Though I do sometimes eat a little Kerrygold butter, I don't drink cow's milk, so I'm not sure how the taste compares. But, it's remarkable how food manufacturers will respond to some consumer demands.

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   Posted 4/8/2018 4:32 PM (GMT -6)   
The Dude Abides said...
Girlie said...
BTW - woke up and no leftover waffles. Hubby said he didn’t see my note!


Hmm... That smells suspicious! smile

Girlie said...
Dude - what is Kerrygold butter?


Kerrygold is a brand of butter imported from Ireland. The butter is made from the milk of pastured cows.

How's this for marketing?

"The winds, rain and warming influence of the Gulf Stream all contribute to the lush grass our cows feed on year-round. They produce the sweetest, richest milk in the world, which makes our grass-fed cow’s milk Irish butter taste silky and creamy and glow a healthy, golden yellow.

Kerrygold Salted Butter is a great all-purpose, all-natural butter. Spread it on a warm piece of crusty bread or serve it tableside with every meal. It’s also a wonderful butter for cooking. The grass-fed cow’s milk flavor elevates your dishes and makes Kerrygold the best-tasting butter."


/www.kerrygoldusa.com/products/salted-butter

Where I live, even one of the "regular" grocery stores is carrying milk from A2 cows, rather than A1 cows. Though I do sometimes eat a little Kerrygold butter, I don't drink cow's milk, so I'm not sure how the taste compares. But, it's remarkable how food manufacturers will respond to some consumer demands.



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   Posted 4/8/2018 6:11 PM (GMT -6)   
I never used much butter before, that said, I've adapted to grass fed, lactose free "Ghee" pretty well for when I'd like butter.

Just bought some Ghee/coco nut butter mix to try, was $3 less than same brand pure Ghee, $8 vs $11, still expensive but better for most than canola butter.

I dont miss sugar/sweets at all. Salt is my addiction. Not to sound sexiest, but sugar seems to be harder for women to quit. I have no idea if salt is more of a guy thing or not, or a hypo thyroid connection. I've craved salt my entire life it seems like.

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   Posted 4/8/2018 6:14 PM (GMT -6)   
My folks make ghee at home and I have started incorporating that into my diet. Love the taste and have read it has many health benefits

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   Posted 4/8/2018 7:14 PM (GMT -6)   
astroman said...
I dont miss sugar/sweets at all. Salt is my addiction. Not to sound sexiest, but sugar seems to be harder for women to quit. I have no idea if salt is more of a guy thing or not, or a hypo thyroid connection. I've craved salt my entire life it seems like.


Man, I'm the same way with salt! I've craved it and salted most foods all my life.

A couple of weeks ago, I was having a terrible problem with restless legs. I'd already been taking epsom salt baths and Natural Calm magnesium powder, so I didn't think that was the problem. I tried some homeopathic remedies - which did nothing. I already had/have sleep issues, so the restless legs were making everything worse.

One of the many things I read online, over several days, was that perhaps low potassium could be causing the restless legs. But, potassium is in so many foods (which is why it's usually low in supplements - even dedicated potassium supplements) that I doubted that to be the case. But, that idea was still in the back of my mind.

Over the next day or so, as I was getting ready to add a few inches of salt to a meal, I thought about the sodium/potassium relationship. I considered that, if my potassium might was low and contributing to the restless legs, perhaps I should halt my salt intake and let my potassium levels "catch-up," over the coming days.

Well, whether coincidence or causation, my restless legs did settle-down.

It's been a few weeks, now, and I'm still not adding any salt to foods. But, now, I've been having some weird heart flutters. Now, I'm wondering is a little more salt might be warranted.

As I'm still jobless, I'm cooking nearly every meal at home. When I buy packaged/canned products (broths, beans, diced tomatoes, etc.), I get the "low-sodium" varieties. My thinking has been that, since sodium is so prevalent in many diets, I would buy no-salt-added foods and just add my own. That way, it would taste saltier, as the salt is on the surface. Many high-sodium foods don't actually taste salty.

Perhaps it's time for a big bag of salty potato chips! Though, it's also been a few weeks, since I took any magnesium. But, potato chips sound more appealing!

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   Posted 4/8/2018 7:26 PM (GMT -6)   
"A few inches of salt" LOL!

One of the only canned veggies I buy is green beans, the low sodium kind. Then I add salt, but at least I can taste it then.

Only chips I currently eat are non GMO white corn chips. But, the most addictive thing I ever ate back when I consumed everything was dill pickle potato chips. Sounded gross till i tried them, someone warned me that they were very addictive, I didn't believe it. Believe me, they are!
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