Magnesium and abx

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OriolCarol
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   Posted 4/8/2018 6:16 PM (GMT -6)   
I know that doxycycline chelate a lot of ions, specially magnesium and us lymes often are magnesium deficiency... Minocycline interacts in the same way?

Currently i'm taking 1200mg of magnesium and 3gr of vitaminC, b6, zinc and potassium. All 7 hours after abx.

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   Posted 4/8/2018 6:21 PM (GMT -6)   
1200mg of magnesium- wow, thats a lot. And your not running to the can every hour? Can you stay awake?

What kind of mag though?
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   Posted 4/8/2018 9:06 PM (GMT -6)   
astroman said...
1200mg of magnesium- wow, thats a lot. And your not running to the can every hour? Can you stay awake?

What kind of mag though?


If you take magnesium glycinate it’s not supposed to cause diarrhea.
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   Posted 4/8/2018 9:07 PM (GMT -6)   
OriolCarol said...
I know that doxycycline chelate a lot of ions, specially magnesium and us lymes often are magnesium deficiency... Minocycline interacts in the same way?

Currently i'm taking 1200mg of magnesium and 3gr of vitaminC, b6, zinc and potassium. All 7 hours after abx.


I take magnesium with all my protocols
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astroman
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   Posted 4/8/2018 11:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Girlie said...
astroman said...
1200mg of magnesium- wow, thats a lot. And your not running to the can every hour? Can you stay awake?

What kind of mag though?


If you take magnesium glycinate it’s not supposed to cause diarrhea.


The glycinates, malates, and citrates still can do that, however at higher doses than mag oxide. That is how you determine your limit. I take 400 before bed and sometimes 200 late morning, 400 if I'm unusually sore. Thats my limit. Mag also makes me sleepy taken during the day, so I usually dont use it then.

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   Posted 4/9/2018 2:20 AM (GMT -6)   
Both my husband and I are able to take higher doses since we switched to the Mag bisglycinate (after a Dr. told me this)

Have you tried the glycinate, astroman?

Here's aa few articles on it;

/88herbs.com/best-magnesium-supplement-to-avoid-diarrhea/

/drnibber.com/understanding-different-types-of-magnesium/

/www.organicnewsroom.com/magnesium-supplements/

"Magnesium oxide: Often used in milk of magnesia products since this form has a strong laxative effect. Even though this combination contains a large proportion of magnesium compared to the oxide molecule, it has poor bioavailability and readily causes loose stools; therefore it is considered the least optimal form to use as a supplement."


"Glycine is a well-known calming amino acid. This combination has good bioavailability and does not have a laxative effect since glycine is actively transported through the intestinal wall. "
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astroman
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   Posted 4/9/2018 10:47 AM (GMT -6)   
Preaching to the choir ha ha.

I used to post about the forms of magnesium like crazy here, (3-4 yrs ago), and have used glycinate for about 8 years - for digestion and CNS. Liked it better than citrate or malate.

"Glycine is a well-known calming amino acid. This combination has good bioavailability and does not have a laxative effect since glycine is actively transported through the intestinal wall."

- I partially dis-agree with "does not have a laxative effect". With any mag with "ate" at the end, your max is still determined by "can time" , however you can just use way more than oxide. This is noted other places. Not all of us need as much, 1200mg of mag "ate" is more than average used. Those who can tolerate high doses are more deficient.

Also - Veggies increase "can time". Meat slows down/ spaces apart can time.

High mag doses also make me sleepy.

Yes oxide is a waste of time, its a laxative- many dont know that yet and would not suspect from marketing tactics.

Post Edited (astroman) : 4/9/2018 11:27:34 AM (GMT-6)

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