Samento, Banderol, & Biofilm

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WalkingbyFaith
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   Posted 4/8/2018 7:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Okay. So I've been on Buhner's protocols since June. I saw my Lyme doctor Friday. She's pushing me to try Samento and Banderol and says "it busts biofilm."

I've searched through some of the posts on this. Here's one: /www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3099107

I'm already taking Cat's Claw. Samento is TOA-free cat's claw. I'm well aware of the TOA-free controversy and lean toward Buhner's assessment, as well as Raintree's found here: www.rain-tree.com/toa-poa-article.htm. Raintree doesn't name the other brands they are referring to, but I'm assuming at least one of them is Samento. Raintree points out one version has a very low dose per capsule, so whichever one that is couldn't be very potent, IMO.

I found this study, which I assume is why the doctor believes these bust biofilm. /www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4971593/

Should I stop using whole herb cat's claw and instead take Samento and Banderol? Are they really better than following Buhner's protocol?

Should I keep taking my cat's claw and just add Banderol?

Why would these be any better at breaking biofilm than the various herbs in Buhner's protocols?

PDXtransplant
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Date Joined Jun 2017
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   Posted 4/8/2018 10:13 PM (GMT -6)   
this is from Buhner's website that I think is run by his former assistant now. still has useful info on it. Samento is just TOA free cat's claw, so at the very least, I would finish what you have before switching to samento.

http://buhnerhealinglyme.com/herbs/samento-and-banderol/

There are a bunch of posts on that website about samento/banderol. although they are old-ish.

I dunno. Have you plateaued? If so, that's prob when i would try switching to something else.

Girlie
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   Posted 4/9/2018 2:00 AM (GMT -6)   
Personally, I'd take the Cat's Claw (not the TOA CC) - I haven't seen/read anything that convinces me otherwise.
(Not that I've been searching though)

I don't think it would hurt to try the banderol - and add it to the CC.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi
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