Herxing after each pill..

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Watodo
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   Posted 4/11/2018 3:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Does anyone herx every time you take a pill?

I’m on doxycycline 200mg a day and it gave me really bad herx from the first dose.
Now my ND reduced to 100mg aday after 3 days of break
I’m detoxing constantly...

goshawk
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   Posted 4/11/2018 3:49 PM (GMT -6)   
you could ask ND about using binders to help with the die off of the bacteria and herxing.


Activated charcoal, Zeobind(zeolite and there are others.

Girlie
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   Posted 4/11/2018 4:06 PM (GMT -6)   
Watodo said...
Does anyone herx every time you take a pill?

I’m on doxycycline 200mg a day and it gave me really bad herx from the first dose.
Now my ND reduced to 100mg aday after 3 days of break
I’m detoxing constantly...


Do you mean right after you take the pill?
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Watodo
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   Posted 4/11/2018 4:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes Girlie, it’s always within few hours (2hrs) of taking the pill.
Intense nerve pain kicks in with pins & needles all over body.

ArtAngel
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   Posted 4/11/2018 5:20 PM (GMT -6)   
https://www.ehealthme.com/ds/doxycycline/neuralgia/

I have a lot of allergies with lyme so I start everything with small doses. An almost immediate reaction like you have within a few hours of taking it would be in my book an allergic reaction.
The link I placed above doesn't say much but neuralgia is a known side effect of doxycycline. There are alternatives both medical and natural remediies.
Talk to your doctor or try some of the herbal solutions they often work better with people who are getting sensitive to meds.
All the best

Girlie
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   Posted 4/11/2018 5:22 PM (GMT -6)   
I've read that a herxheimer can start within a couple of hours after taking the antibiotics.

I thought you meant like 5-10 minutes after you take your abx....which I doubt could happen.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

Watodo
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   Posted 4/11/2018 8:40 PM (GMT -6)   
I thought it was an allergic reaction too. But they are my old symptoms..so it could be herx.
I felt so much better before treatment and it is vert discouraging
I was expecting herx reaction but not after two hours and every single time..
What are other choices of antibiotics that I can try instead of doxycycline?

Thank you..

Girlie
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   Posted 4/11/2018 10:36 PM (GMT -6)   
There’s lots of choices - minocycline, Ceftin, omnicef, Biaxin, Azithromycin, amoxicillin...

But you should be adding a second one
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

Octobrsky13
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   Posted 4/12/2018 12:47 PM (GMT -6)   
I would herx soon after taking every dose of abx when I started treatment. Sometimes 1/2 hr after. I would always wonder if it was an allergic reaction but it was my normal symptoms and over time it calmed down but it can still happen within a couple of hours at times. It can happen to me when I start something new, like herbs and Monolaurin. If it were an allergic reaction I wouldn’t be able to take anything because it’s happened with literally everything I take and have taken in the past.

Girlie
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   Posted 4/12/2018 1:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Octobrsky13 said...
I would herx soon after taking every dose of abx when I started treatment. Sometimes 1/2 hr after. I would always wonder if it was an allergic reaction but it was my normal symptoms and over time it calmed down but it can still happen within a couple of hours at times. It can happen to me when I start something new, like herbs and Monolaurin. If it were an allergic reaction I wouldn’t be able to take anything because it’s happened with literally everything I take and have taken in the past.


A half hour is really quick. I wouldn’t think it would have been broken down in your stomach and in the bloodstream that quick..that’s interesting.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

Octobrsky13
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   Posted 4/12/2018 1:57 PM (GMT -6)   
Girlie said...
Octobrsky13 said...
I would herx soon after taking every dose of abx when I started treatment. Sometimes 1/2 hr after. I would always wonder if it was an allergic reaction but it was my normal symptoms and over time it calmed down but it can still happen within a couple of hours at times. It can happen to me when I start something new, like herbs and Monolaurin. If it were an allergic reaction I wouldn’t be able to take anything because it’s happened with literally everything I take and have taken in the past.


A half hour is really quick. I wouldn’t think it would have been broken down in your stomach and in the bloodstream that quick..that’s interesting.


It is quick! I read that it takes about 20 minutes to enter the bloodstream but my LLMD says it’s still unusual. I take abx 20 minutes before meals and when it was really bad in the beginning I would have to stop eating and wait for it to pass. The air hunger herxes were the worst and I really did think I was having an allergic reaction but it would pass and then eventually lessened over time and now they don’t happen at all that fast.
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