Bartonella babesia Lyme Doctor Plan

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isitlyme
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   Posted 4/13/2018 7:45 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi all,

My doctor just prescribed me trial a plan to see what is the best treatment for me:

Doxycline 100 mg 2x day for 14 days with Flagyl 500 mg intermitent days

Pause for 2 weeks and take malarone 200mg during those.

Roxythromicin 300mg/day for 14 days with Flagyl 500 mg intermitent days

Pause for 15 days with malarone for 10 days

Cefixin 200mg / day for 14 days and Flagyl 500 mg
intermitent days

I think there is some kind of tecnique behind this strategy. Perhaps someone can figure it out here?

Girlie
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   Posted 4/13/2018 9:48 AM (GMT -6)   
Is this a Lyme Literate dr prescribing this?

The doses of the meds are too low.

And there should be combos of abx - ie not taking Ceftin alone.. etc
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

isitlyme
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   Posted 4/13/2018 11:21 AM (GMT -6)   
No, if you noticed, i am taking first 14 days doxycline combined with flagyl intermitent days on flagyl

Girlie
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   Posted 4/13/2018 11:27 AM (GMT -6)   
isitlyme said...
No, if you noticed, i am taking first 14 days doxycline combined with flagyl intermitent days on flagyl


But are you taking something with the malarone? maybe I misunderstood.

Doxy dose is half of what's usually prescribed.

I take Ceftin 1000 mg twice daily.

200 mg is low.

And what are you taking for Bartonella?
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

Post Edited (Girlie) : 4/13/2018 11:30:26 AM (GMT-6)


isitlyme
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   Posted 4/13/2018 12:32 PM (GMT -6)   
With malarone indeed not. Why would be that?

Doxycycline has activity against Bartonella spp.
and is recommended as first-line therapy for many
of these conditions, either alone, or in the more
serious illnesses, combined with other agents such
as gentamicin or rifampicin. It is generally given for
prolonged periods.

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.4137/CMT.S2035

Girlie
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   Posted 4/13/2018 12:43 PM (GMT -6)   
isitlyme said...
With malarone indeed not. Why would be that?

Doxycycline has activity against Bartonella spp.
and is recommended as first-line therapy for many
of these conditions, either alone, or in the more
serious illnesses, combined with other agents such
as gentamicin or rifampicin. It is generally given for
prolonged periods.

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.4137/CMT.S2035


For Babesia, mepron or malarone is paired with an antibiotic.

For chronic bartonella, never alone - always combined with a second (sometimes third) antibiotic.

This is why Lyme literate dr's are needed to treat us.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

isitlyme
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   Posted 4/13/2018 1:06 PM (GMT -6)   
He is a member of ilads.

DR. LOUIS TEULIERES Chronic Lyme & Neurological Disorders : Mechanism and Treatments Dr. Louis Teulieres will introduce borrelia strains and forms, with a focus on parasite and host relationships, including intracellular, persister, cyst and other forms/colonies. He will examine the immunopathology and physio-pathological model of neuroborreliosis (autism and neurodegenerative conditions) and current available treatment and support to the neuro-endocrino/immune pathways. about Dr. Louis Teulieres Dr. Teulieres is a medical doctor with degrees in immunology, epidemiology, infectious diseases and bacteriology. He is former Director of Pasteur Institute clinical trials, a Co-Trustee of Phelix bacteriophages research charity, and member of ILADS.

Girlie
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   Posted 4/13/2018 1:14 PM (GMT -6)   
isitlyme said...
He is a member of ilads.

DR. LOUIS TEULIERES Chronic Lyme & Neurological Disorders : Mechanism and Treatments Dr. Louis Teulieres will introduce borrelia strains and forms, with a focus on parasite and host relationships, including intracellular, persister, cyst and other forms/colonies. He will examine the immunopathology and physio-pathological model of neuroborreliosis (autism and neurodegenerative conditions) and current available treatment and support to the neuro-endocrino/immune pathways. about Dr. Louis Teulieres Dr. Teulieres is a medical doctor with degrees in immunology, epidemiology, infectious diseases and bacteriology. He is former Director of Pasteur Institute clinical trials, a Co-Trustee of Phelix bacteriophages research charity, and member of ILADS.


Uh oh. I wonder if I have him listed as a LLMD.

I wish you luck, but his protocols aren't in line with what experienced LLMD's prescribe.

Please keep us updated as you proceed.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

isitlyme
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   Posted 4/13/2018 1:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Yeah, i know. But he is only isolating malorone. Dont know why. He also said this sequences are only to find the best effective treatment for me. He is rotating abx, pulsing? Its a sequence he said..

isitlyme
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   Posted 4/13/2018 2:45 PM (GMT -6)   
I wonder ig this is going to work i hope do
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