Can someone please review my protocol?

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1234567890
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   Posted 4/14/2018 8:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi,

My doctor and I changed my protocol to:

Azithromycin + Ceftin + Grapefruit Seed Extract

Is this effective? Does anyone have any recommendations on what else I can do?

Girlie
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   Posted 4/14/2018 9:20 PM (GMT -6)   
I’ve taken Ceftin and Azithromycin together - and I’ve seen it in others’ protocols.

The GSE is being used as a cyst buster.

This will treat Lyme, but not the coinfections Bart and Babs.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

1234567890
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   Posted 4/16/2018 7:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you

BlakeAlexander
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   Posted 4/16/2018 7:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Ceftin and Azithromycin are both good lyme drugs. However, if you want recommendations on what else you can do:

1. Add another intracellular antibiotic (i.e. tetracyclines, septra/bactrim, rifampin, fluoroquinolones) to the azithromycin. Dr. H talks highly in regards to using double and even triple intracellular combinations.

2. Substitute a pharmaceutical cyst agent (i.e. tindamax/flagyl) for the GSE.

This all depends on how aggressive you want to be.

BabsBunny
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   Posted 4/17/2018 11:32 AM (GMT -6)   
By the way, GSE is used to target Babesia. I didn’t know this, and started taking it (Agrisept-L) to fight Candida. Had a huge herx that knocked me back for weeks! Go slllloooooooow with that one!
Lyme, Babesia, Bartonella. Symptoms began 5/2016, didn't start treatment until 9/2016. Slow but steady recovery.

*twitch twitch*

Girlie
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   Posted 4/17/2018 11:37 AM (GMT -6)   
BabsBunny said...
By the way, GSE is used to target Babesia. I didn’t know this, and started taking it (Agrisept-L) to fight Candida. Had a huge herx that knocked me back for weeks! Go slllloooooooow with that one!



I've not heard that GSE is being used to target Babesia before. LLND's?

So, your herx was babesia symptoms?
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

BabsBunny
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   Posted 4/17/2018 11:44 AM (GMT -6)   
I didn’t know that either, but when I felt so awful, I started researching it more and found a lot of people saying they use it specifically for Babs.

My Babs herxes have been unbearable lately. Only 5 days on two Malarone (should be 4) and I’ve been down for 4 days, off all abx to calm the herx.

I haven’t gone back to using the GSE - my LLMD said please don’t mix antimicrobials without his Rx. I do believe I’ll use it when I’ discontinue abx to ease me into remission.
Lyme, Babesia, Bartonella. Symptoms began 5/2016, didn't start treatment until 9/2016. Slow but steady recovery.

*twitch twitch*

Girlie
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   Posted 4/17/2018 11:47 AM (GMT -6)   
BabsBunny said...
I didn’t know that either, but when I felt so awful, I started researching it more and found a lot of people saying they use it specifically for Babs.

My Babs herxes have been unbearable lately. Only 5 days on two Malarone (should be 4) and I’ve been down for 4 days, off all abx to calm the herx.

I haven’t gone back to using the GSE - my LLMD said please don’t mix antimicrobials without his Rx. I do believe I’ll use it when I’ discontinue abx to ease me into remission.


And you know it's hitting babs and not lyme? As we all know GSE is a cyst buster.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

BabsBunny
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   Posted 4/17/2018 11:56 AM (GMT -6)   
It was some time ago... if I recall, it was Babs symptoms. I’m in the Epsom bath right now so I can’t easily dig up my references. I’ll try to remember to get back to you
Lyme, Babesia, Bartonella. Symptoms began 5/2016, didn't start treatment until 9/2016. Slow but steady recovery.

*twitch twitch*

Amy K
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   Posted 4/17/2018 12:43 PM (GMT -6)   
new to this...what is a cyst buster and why do you need them?? thank you!

Girlie
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   Posted 4/17/2018 1:13 PM (GMT -6)   
When lyme gets threatened - which happens when we treat...it can go into cyst form as a defense.

cyst busters will open up those cysts...so that the medications and immune system can kill the spirochetes.
Moderator, Lyme Forum
Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

1234567890
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   Posted 4/17/2018 3:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you all. Can GSE cause muscle spasms?
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