Th1 or Th2 immune dominance.........?

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astroman
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   Posted 4/18/2018 11:22 PM (GMT -6)   
I find the self hacked site pretty useful, however the th1 or th2 just confused me more.

Do any of your CLEARLY see yourself in one or the other, I never have for some reason.

/www.selfhacked.com/blog/supplements-foods-exercise-right-type-th1-vs-th2-dominance/#Are_You_Th1_or_Th2_Dominant

sandyfeet
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   Posted 4/19/2018 6:02 AM (GMT -6)   
This was one of the first self-hacked articles that I read (last summer) and at the time I felt I was very likely Th1 dominant - probably because inflammation was the main thing on my mind at the time. I also noticed that the fixes were often the things that I had naturally gravitated towards. Taking a quick glance over the article again I'd still say I feel like I'm more Th1 dominant.

He does say that some people are a mix of both. Perhaps you're happily balanced. smile

astroman
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   Posted 4/19/2018 9:46 AM (GMT -6)   
The odd thing is many of these "Functional Health Chiropractors" say Th dominance is one of the causes of autoimmune thyroid (Dr "K" is the main guru behind this), or at least one of the obstacles along the way to better thyroid/autoimmune management. Based on that, I assumed I would be one or the other.
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sandyfeet
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   Posted 4/19/2018 11:08 AM (GMT -6)   
Yeah, I find it a bit puzzling too. I definitely feel like I'm more on the Th1 side but then he seems to point to a study that shows that lyme progresses from Th1 dominant to Th2 dominant and mine went untreated for over 4 years so I'd expect to be in the later stages. I found that study hard to make heads or tails of (probably Th1 dominant brain fog and fatigue imo lol). I figured an additional thing that pointed to continued Th1 dominance for me was simply that I had almost no bands show up on my WB which I, perhaps mistakenly, take as a sign that the antibody side of things was and probably still is depressed.

I guess things get more complicated the more things you have going on though. Sigh. He lists Hashimotos as a Th1 thing, what makes you feel you lean more to Th2 as well?
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astroman
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   Posted 4/19/2018 11:40 AM (GMT -6)   
With history, I'm 50/50 on both of these. Looks like these examples all hold equal weight.

The few examples on both sides are not very uncommon for people here, or chronically ill people in general, I'm betting many are both.

Notime4lyme
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   Posted 4/19/2018 6:58 PM (GMT -6)   
It's an interesting article... I feel like I'm more Th2 dominant, but sometimes I feel like I'm dominant in both. Sometimes I feel like every other day I switch. One day I'll feel totally normal (which doesn't seem right because I know I'm sick), the next day I'll feel like I'm coming down with something horrible and my immune system is really going crazy.
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