Typical Bart Herx?

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   Posted 4/20/2018 7:20 AM (GMT -6)   
So I have only been treating bartonella for two weeks now, first week at half dosage now I'm at full dosage (300mg 2 times a day).

Yesterday I had to stay home from work because I had this awful headache that was a line across the back of my head where it meets my neck and then ran along both sides of my head around my ears then to the back of my eyes. It was horrible. No amount of advil could knock it out.

Now today I feel like every muscle on my body is sore. My lower back hurts really bad.

All this along with dizzyness, brain fog, very weak, blurry vision. The pain in my feet is the only thing that has seemed to improve.

A side note - I am having lots of ear trouble and I kind of assume that the zithromax is causing it.. I might switch to biaxin. They are plugged up, and ringing and I really dont want any permanent damage. Could I switch right away or should I wait a few days for the zith to clear out of my system?

Post Edited (NicHostetler) : 4/20/2018 9:13:30 AM (GMT-6)

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   Posted 4/20/2018 10:03 AM (GMT -6)   
When I mess with antibiotics, I call a pharmacist if I can't reach my doctor. However, I have a nurse in my doctor's office that is so super smart and I really can rely on her information.

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   Posted 4/20/2018 1:16 PM (GMT -6)   
My LLMD said to discontinue Zithromax, and add Biaxin after 5 days.
Very sick starting around 07/2016
Started treatment 03/2017
Bixain & Cefdinir - 3 months - plateaued
Then Biaxin & Minocycline - 3 months - did not improve
Tinidazole - 500MG 2x a day - 2 weeks
Now taking:
Mepron 5mL 2x a day
Cats Claw - 30 drops 2x a day
Gou Teng - 30 drops 2x a day
CSA - 40 drops 2x a day
Japanese Knotweed - 40 drops 2x a day

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   Posted 4/20/2018 4:59 PM (GMT -6)   
I’m joining you in the Bart battle, but going with rifampin and Mino (my new LLmD said to drop the Zith). Took my first pill a few hours ago, turns your urine a nice shade of orange/red. Are you taking the Japanese knotweed or other herbs along with the abx?
Sx began Aug 2017.
Dx with Lyme 10/13/17. Rx with Doxy/Zith/Tindamax x 2-3 months (80% improvement)
Dx with Babesia Duncani 1/2018. Rx with Mepron/Zith/Doxy x 1 month
2 week break due to worst herx/experience of my life
Coartem/Zith/Doxy 2/2018-3/2018 (60% improvement)
Coartem/Zith/Mino beginning 3/30/18
Dx with Bartonella 4/7/18

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   Posted 4/20/2018 9:51 PM (GMT -6)   
I had the same issue with odd ear symptoms while taking azithromycin, I'm still not sure whether it was the antibiotic or the herx. Many others in my family have taken it for shorter durations without any adverse effect.

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   Posted 4/21/2018 12:46 AM (GMT -6)   
There are some antibiotics that can cause tinnitus. So, if you do develop it...take a look and see if the med you're on has it listed as a risk/side effect.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi
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