Candida detox before treating Lyme & Co

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8L8L8
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   Posted 4/21/2018 5:55 PM (GMT -6)   
This is my first post though I've been following and reading posts for a few wks now.

My LLMD suggested we do a candida detox (no sugar, dairy, starch, wheat, limited fruit) for 14 days before we ramp up treatment for Lyme & Co. (by ramp up, I mean I started Cowdens 1 wk ago but after the detox the next plan is to start abx) I am finishing up day 3 of the detox.

In scrolling through the site I haven't seen this question asked. If so I'd love someone to share the link. Or if you have personal done this I would love to hear, as well as worlds of encouragement bc I'm struggling.

Just to add, we did not test for candida, he just think this is an added problem.

Thanks!!

Girlie
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   Posted 4/21/2018 6:28 PM (GMT -6)   
What is your question?

Are you asking if it's a good idea to do the Candida detox? Yes, it certainly can't hurt.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

8L8L8
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   Posted 4/22/2018 1:04 PM (GMT -6)   
I apologize.

I was just looking to see if anyone else had been told to tackle a possible candida overgrowth before tackling Lyme? It's very draining to be told you have to cut out majority of the food groups while at the peak of Lyme symptoms.

Was just hoping another person had some words of encouragement or positivity.

Thank you for any kind response.

astroman
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   Posted 4/22/2018 1:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Sometimes reality of healing is not comforting or positive at first. Knowing you are entering a new phase of health will eventuality seam positive. Most of what candida likes are not good foods to divulge in. Veggies are. Cutting out sweets makes veggies taste better.

My LLMD made me do that and stated on leaky gut program before ABX. I had lyme for many years, so another few months was no biggie. Some lymies have huge gut issues, then abx makes it worse.

We all owe it to ourselves to at least venture into clean eating, staying there or not is a different deal.
Had initial lyme symptoms late 80's, then again and with bullseye early 90's. Ended ABX for Lyme in Jan 2016. Rebuilding / fine tuning / fixing muscles since then; member "10 Percenters Lyme Club". What an adventure this has been. Hashimotos adds to the enjoyment.

Girlie
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   Posted 4/22/2018 11:14 PM (GMT -6)   
8L8L8 said...
I apologize.

I was just looking to see if anyone else had been told to tackle a possible candida overgrowth before tackling Lyme? It's very draining to be told you have to cut out majority of the food groups while at the peak of Lyme symptoms.

Was just hoping another person had some words of encouragement or positivity.

Thank you for any kind response.


Since you’re only holding off Lyme treatment for 14 days - it’s not really setting back your Lyme treatment.
Give it a go - you may find you feel better on the diet and want to continue after the 14 days.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

Girlie
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   Posted 4/22/2018 11:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Sorry- I didn’t welcome you to our community, 8L8L8.

Please feel free to ask any questions you have - were here to support you.

Keep reading, posting - there’s a lot to learn!
Moderator, Lyme Forum
Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

8L8L8
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   Posted 4/23/2018 6:06 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for all of the responses.

I feel much worse with this limited diet and trying to function in my career and family is difficult. I'm not on the candida diet, I'm on the candida detox so no fruit, starches, dairy, sugar....10 more days. I will not be following this after the 14 days, I need my fruit and sweet potatoes.

I've had Lyme & Co for 10+ years so I'm in no rush. Just patiently following the rules.

Thank you again for the responses.

1000Daisies
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   Posted 4/23/2018 12:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Welcome to the board, but I'm sorry that you are so ill that you are here!

I do have experience with yeast issues. I know you say candida, but it's important to realize that there are pathogenic non-candida yeast strains that can be problematic. Just a FYI. I use to 'loosely' refer to my issue as candida, but then I tested negative for candida albicans. Much later, I learned (and tested positive) for a non-candida yeast strain. Just a heads-up on that distinction.

I did do a limited diet. You have only been doing it for a few days and feel worse? That would be very suspicious of a yeast die-off reaction possibly.

Honestly, if you have a yeast issue, 14 days is likely not going to be long enough for treatment. Are you doing diet alone? Again, if you have a yeast issue, it's unlikely 14 days only with only a diet restriction will resolve your yeast issue (if you have one).

I did a restrictive diet for a few months. I did not do well on it because it was way too restrictive for me and couldn't get my calories/nutrients in. Sorry - this will go against many yeast warrior's beliefs! But I HAD to loosen up the requirements just to be able to get nutrients! I do have serious issues with how restrictive the anti yeast diet is. I have no issue with doing it for a few months if it's necessary, but I personally refused to do it longer term.

I certainly can cut out sugar - no nutritional value there. To this day, I do have to do limited sugar!

If you do indeed has a yeast issue, you may want to look into pure nystatin to treat the gut in addition to dietary changes.

Wishing you the best of luck with this!
Kid#1: Extremely sick for several years, very difficult to treat, but doing great now!
Kid#2: Still sick now despite being treated for years but doing better (not well yet).
Kid#3: Generally good but relapsing off/on.
Me: Adv Labs positive 2016 (suspected I passed to my kids)-not as sick as others, mostly battling fatigue and yeast issues (heart/kidney issues resolved)
Treating with herbals now.
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