Babesia question, and where do I go from here?

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   Posted 4/28/2018 2:01 PM (GMT -6)   
Right now I'm doing cold laser therapy for bartonella and Lyme.

I think I may also have babesia. When I drive I get a feeling like I'm not really "there" I feel like I need to pinch myself to stay aware. I'm not sleepy, I just feel like I'm in a dream sort of. Could this be a sign of a babesia infection?

I've heard a lot that you should always treat the babesia first, so I'm wondering about trying artemisinin and/or quinine, and I was wondering if they worked for anyone else. On the other hand I'm wondering if I should even bother trying to treat it, because I don't think I really have any other babesia symptoms. I do think I might have a parasite, but I'm not sure on that either.

And since starting cold laser therapy, I've gotten a strange symmetrical rash on both my ankles. I have and itchy,oval red patch on each side of both my ankles. It looks like pictures I've seem of Lyme rashes without the bull's eye. I don't think I've gotten any new bites, especially not on my ankles. I'm thinking it's some type of herx.

The cold laser also does not seem to be helping the bartonella rash. I'm feeling better but I feel like the bartonella is still there. I've been on herbs but I don't think the ones I'm taking are strong enough. I just really don't know where to go from here.

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   Posted 4/28/2018 2:12 PM (GMT -6)   
What herbal protocol are you using? How long have you been on it.

The dreamlike state you described sounds like a form of derealization. I think that mostly occurs with bartonella or Lyme. I'm not familiar with that being a babesia symptom.

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   Posted 4/28/2018 8:15 PM (GMT -6)   
I've been on teasel, cat's claw, sida and andrographis, for about 1 1/2 years. I've been taking sweet annie on and off maybe 2 !/2 years. Before that I did Byron White formulas for about six months. I've been taking red root, stephania, and boneset about six months right now. I'm also taking GSE, garlic, vitamins, etc.

That makes me feel a lot better. Maybe I'm only dealing with Lyme and bartonella, not babesia. I also muscle tested as having brucellosis and anaplasma, so I wonder if they are causing me symptoms. I always did think my symptoms seemed similar to James Herriot's description of brucellosis in one of his All Creatures Great and Small series.
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