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Livingforhope
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   Posted 5/3/2018 12:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Is mutiple chemical sensitivity common with lyme?

ArtAngel
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   Posted 5/3/2018 12:36 PM (GMT -6)   
Well it is not unusual. Lyme does things that disturb your immune system. I have MCS with lyme.

Livingforhope
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   Posted 5/3/2018 1:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Any suggestions how to deal with the mcs? I'm having a hard time with it. Any suggestions would be great.

ArtAngel
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   Posted 5/3/2018 2:13 PM (GMT -6)   
I haven't gotten over it although it is a lot better.
I think it is due in my case to a congested liver. They say on the internet it is an overload of toxins. Everything you do towards detoxing is a positive here. You cant fully get rid of lyme until you reduce the rubbish in your body. So detoxing is king.
I had been taking detox products for ages so I really thought it wasn't my issue. I was on a healthy diet and drinking healthy water with the right ph and I took milk thistle and lipo glutathione but I guess it wasn't enough.
When I got an ozone sauna I thought I would be killing the lyme. I have allergies to lyme meds and herbs so I have been struggling finding an effective strategy to killing the lyme. Instead I came out with a massive ozone rash which is a sign that my body is full of toxins. The rash is still there after regular ozone saunas of 8 months, so it drove home the message that I was a poor detoxer. I had to look more carefully into the detoxing I was doing.
Best thing I ever did was liver flushes heaps came out and I felt better. It took a bit of time to work out how to do it I had to test all the recipe items and I was allergic to all of them but I found alternatives.
These days I am using chlorella and coriander, liver detox herbs - milk thistle, dandelion root, I have an ozone and an infrared sauna, and I take methyl folate (highly recommended), alpha lipoic acid and biotin (excellent) and I am chipping away at it.
I drink even more water and I take ph booster drops and check my ph is adequate because it drops in the afternoon and at night which means the water you drink is not moving toxins out.
I am less allergic to things and my immune system is better but it is all a work in progress. There is no silver bullet or quick answer I wish there was.

Livingforhope
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   Posted 5/3/2018 6:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks so much. I need to add a lot of these and start doing saunas.

WalkingbyFaith
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   Posted 5/4/2018 10:00 AM (GMT -6)   
I have MCS, too. I tested positive for Lyme and ehrlichia, but most of my symptoms seem to be related to bartonella.

I also have CIRS from mold exposure and HLA-DR genetic types that are multi susceptible to all biotoxins and the specific gene for borrelia.

I am a very poor detoxer.
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Post Note:

Looking back, I've always been sensitive to smells and especially smoke. I've also had signs of bart since infancy or early childhood.

My chronic Lyme symptoms started in 2009. It was then that I got fragrance out of my environment. This was when the chemical sensitivities became noticeable and started to affect my life.

In 2015 after a respiratory virus, my symptoms went full throttle and the chemical sensitivities started to really interfere with everyday life and at work. In Sep 2016, I was diagnosed with CIRS from mold and left my moldy house and workplace. At this point, the chemical sensitivities got even worse and became painful and miserable. They get much worse when herxing. The worst they ever were was when I took cholestyramine for 11 days to detox mold. I had to stop because it was unbearable. That was in Nov 16. I still have the sensitivities. I hope and pray I can get rid of it eventually.

Post Edited (WalkingbyFaith) : 5/4/2018 10:05:49 AM (GMT-6)


WalkingbyFaith
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   Posted 5/4/2018 10:08 AM (GMT -6)   
ArtAngel said...
I haven't gotten over it although it is a lot better.
I think it is due in my case to a congested liver. They say on the internet it is an overload of toxins. Everything you do towards detoxing is a positive here. You cant fully get rid of lyme until you reduce the rubbish in your body. So detoxing is king.
I had been taking detox products for ages so I really thought it wasn't my issue. I was on a healthy diet and drinking healthy water with the right ph and I took milk thistle and lipo glutathione but I guess it wasn't enough.
When I got an ozone sauna I thought I would be killing the lyme. I have allergies to lyme meds and herbs so I have been struggling finding an effective strategy to killing the lyme. Instead I came out with a massive ozone rash which is a sign that my body is full of toxins. The rash is still there after regular ozone saunas of 8 months, so it drove home the message that I was a poor detoxer. I had to look more carefully into the detoxing I was doing.
Best thing I ever did was liver flushes heaps came out and I felt better. It took a bit of time to work out how to do it I had to test all the recipe items and I was allergic to all of them but I found alternatives.
These days I am using chlorella and coriander, liver detox herbs - milk thistle, dandelion root, I have an ozone and an infrared sauna, and I take methyl folate (highly recommended), alpha lipoic acid and biotin (excellent) and I am chipping away at it.
I drink even more water and I take ph booster drops and check my ph is adequate because it drops in the afternoon and at night which means the water you drink is not moving toxins out.
I am less allergic to things and my immune system is better but it is all a work in progress. There is no silver bullet or quick answer I wish there was.


ArtAngel,

This is very interesting and helpful. Both doctors I've seen wanted me to do FIR sauna. I finally found out the YMCA has a sauna, but the building has mold or chemicals and the air is not clean, so I haven't been there. I have not done sauna yet. It probably would help if it doesn't cause a massive herx or something.

What brand of methyl folate do you take? How do you know it helps?

What are pH booster drops? How do you check your pH?

ArtAngel
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   Posted 5/4/2018 12:21 PM (GMT -6)   
I got a second hand infrared sauna. I use it at least every other day. It is the Sunlighten dome style you can put it in the back seat of your car when you pick it up. Handy for me since I live in a regional area. It was less than half the price of new and it is good quality so I haven't had a problem with it. I think it is excellent because it is a deep tissue sauna. The saunas at the gym aren't the same. The first couple of times I was very tired afterwards I think it was a bit too much initially but that was confirmation for me it was helping.
I use Alkalife pH booster drops from iHerb. Lemon juice in your water is cheaper especially if you have a lemon tree but I can't tolerate citrus these days. It helps to get some pH strips from your chemist so you can track whether you are keeping to an optimum pH level it has changed for me overtime with diet and supplement changes.
I get methyl folate from iherb they have several brands I think they are all pretty much the same I haven't stuck with one brand.
It is hard to know if you are getting the toxins down. I use bioresonance as a bit of a guide - I had heavy metals initially and they are not showing up now, and the rash I get from the ozone sauna isn't so bad these days so I can tell that way that the toxic load is going down.
All the best
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