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Ashleyann82587
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   Posted 5/4/2018 5:01 PM (GMT -6)   
Who has this strain and what helped knock it out? How long did you treat it?
I pulsed mepron, Zithromax, and super arteminisin for 2 1/2 months. Also did Septra DS for 8 weeks, pulsed.

Ashleyann82587
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   Posted 5/4/2018 8:04 PM (GMT -6)   
I should add I don't think I've cleared this infection so wondering what else I can try.

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   Posted 5/4/2018 8:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Mepron - only 2 1/2 months?


If so, it needs to be longer than that.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

Ashleyann82587
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   Posted 5/4/2018 8:34 PM (GMT -6)   
I did mepron, azithro, and super arteminisin at the same time, 2 1/2 months. I don't feel like that's long enough. I switched llmds..who wants to hit Bart first. He feels it's the driver of disease. I'd like to throw in a good herb for babs to at least cover it a little. What about cumanda? From Cowden..

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   Posted 5/4/2018 8:50 PM (GMT -6)   
Ashleyann82587 said...
I did mepron, azithro, and super arteminisin at the same time, 2 1/2 months. I don't feel like that's long enough. I switched llmds..who wants to hit Bart first. He feels it's the driver of disease. I'd like to throw in a good herb for babs to at least cover it a little. What about cumanda? From Cowden..


Sida acuta.

According to Buhner, it's one of the most effective herbs for babesia and also is effective against bartonella.

Ashleyann82587
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   Posted 5/4/2018 8:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks!!!

Girlie
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   Posted 5/4/2018 11:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Cryptolepis is a good herb for Babesia, as well.

LLMD MR has it listed as an effective herb. He also likes to use it for relapse



"Cryptolepis is an herbal medicine originally used in Ghana to treat malaria. My preferred source for this is Woodland Essence.
In addition to using Cryptolepis to treat active babesia I sometimes will use it as a preventive medication in a person who has a babesia relapse. "
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

Post Edited (Girlie) : 5/4/2018 10:20:01 PM (GMT-6)


Ashleyann82587
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   Posted 5/5/2018 7:03 AM (GMT -6)   
Girlie, I have cryptolepis!!!! Just not tried it. Do you know the dosage?

Girlie
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   Posted 5/5/2018 10:49 AM (GMT -6)   
Ashleyann82587 said...
Girlie, I have cryptolepis!!!! Just not tried it. Do you know the dosage?


I don’t have the Babesia book but it’s most likely 1/4 tsp 3x day

Start off low dose though and increase slowly.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

Rikky1
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   Posted 5/6/2018 12:38 AM (GMT -6)   
Dr. J in DC says Babesia is the bugger that blocks everything else from getting better. He's been at this a few decades and has 3000 active patients so I'll go with what he says.

For me he's right I had to treat Babs an entire year after treating it on and off for 2 years cause I didn't kill it off and it came back a bit more resistant. I'm definitely better in a few major symptoms from continuing to take the babesia protocol even though I thought it was a waste of time.

Rare Squirrel
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   Posted 5/11/2018 6:37 PM (GMT -6)   
My ND suspects I have this strain too, especially living in the Pacific NW but says she doesn't have a test for it specifically. Did you have a positive test for it and if so, what test was able to detect it? I would really like to have a test specifically run for it because I'm not going through anything if something else needs to be treated first and I really want to know what all I actually do have so the best treatment can be tailored to it. Thank you!!!

Girlie
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   Posted 5/11/2018 7:11 PM (GMT -6)   
Rare squirrel - Igenex tests for Babesia. I believe they have the IFA for Babesia Duncan, as well as the Babs FISH and PCR tests.

I haven't tested for babesia ..hopefully others' will be on to advise which tests are the best.


Some LLMD's treat Babesia first as they feel it can be blocking the treatment of lyme and other coinfections.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

Rikky1
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   Posted 5/11/2018 8:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Rare Squirrel do the FISH test via Igenex because that detects the RNA of the organism so if you're positive you're definitely positive.

Some LLMD's don't even bother testing and just assume you have it and just treat for it. Reason being ticks today are so much diriter than in the past and by dirty I mean they have way more pathogens than historically.

FYI the Duncani strain (which was originally called WA-1, WA being Washington) is believed to of originated from the Pacific Northwest but make no mistake its all over the east coast and who knows where else.

Rare Squirrel
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   Posted 5/12/2018 4:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you! I'm looking into getting those run asap!
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