Urgent: Anyone w/ Lyme/CO's been helped by Sunshine Clinic?

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julala
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   Posted 5/7/2018 11:09 PM (GMT -6)   
I emailed the Sunshine Clinic in Knoxville, TN, my Lyme story as I was told to in October and never heard back from them. They called me today to say they have an opening in two weeks. They had put me on a waiting list in October but never told me, and never told me anything about how he treats Lyme. Someone I am acquainted with said her aunt had Lyme, was treated by him and now she's fine. And people come from all over the world to see him for Lyme. His name is Dr. Barry Sunshine. He doesn't treat w/ abx, so it's ok to post his name.

He's holistic chiropractor. I am finding a lot of great testimonials online about how he's helped people, but nothing about Lyme. Just wondering if anyone has been to him for tick-borne illnesses. Please let me know. He is really helping a lot of people with allergies and pain, and supposedly Lyme. But he is charging me $1500 for four days of visits. I think that his pricing in unethical, but people say (on FB and in testimonials) that he's "anointed" and a miracle-worker. His testing techniques are suspect, as are all holistic chiropractors, I suppose. He is certainly overcharging Lyme people. But if it can help...

Anyway, I have to decide by tomorrow morning. Please let me know if you or someone you know has been helped by him. Thank you!!

https://www.sunshineintegratedhealthsystem.com/testimonials.html

http://www.sunshinehealthclinic.com/

Post Edited (julala) : 5/7/2018 11:12:33 PM (GMT-6)


Girlie
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   Posted 5/8/2018 12:41 AM (GMT -6)   
I haven't heard of the Sunshine Clinc.


I would want to know what the treatment actually is.

I think if he was that successful treating lyme, we'd have heard about it??

You may get some responses from other members early tomorrow morning..but there's usually not many people on this late.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

Loutucky
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   Posted 5/8/2018 5:37 AM (GMT -6)   
I am going to the Sunshine Clinic in 6 weeks. He does Kinesiology and Cold Laser for all the infections. The Facebook site that discusses this clinic simply provides testimonials from people who have had treatment there whether they were helped tremendously, just a little bit or not at all. The New England Lyme Laser Center in Massachusetts also does Cold Laser but for lyme disease only.

They want people to know that if you have been sick a long time and have many issues that it may take several visits but that the doctor is dedicated to finding out how to help you. Patients hear of miracles and then get upset because they are not cured in 4 days. I am going with reasonable expectations with a 20 year disease of multiple infections and viruses. Total system failure. Hoping and praying he can help me.

The first visit is 4 days for $1500. Followup visits are much cheaper from what I have been told because it may only consist of one or two days of treatment depending on your needs and because they are familiar with your case. I will say that one of my lyme doctors charges $250 for 45 minutes. Another charges $420 for 1.5 hours.

Apparently, this doctor is training other chiropractors with his protocol in hopes of being able to help more people. I think a lady in Vancouver, WA has trained under the doctor and is now seeing patients and doing his treatment.

I wish you the best of luck with your decision. I haven't been yet so I can't comment on the actual protocols. They are now saying that the appointment wait list is up through early 2019.

Post Edited (Loutucky) : 5/8/2018 3:01:15 PM (GMT-6)


julala
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   Posted 5/8/2018 9:06 AM (GMT -6)   
Girlie said...
I haven't heard of the Sunshine Clinc.


I would want to know what the treatment actually is.

I think if he was that successful treating lyme, we'd have heard about it??

You may get some responses from other members early tomorrow morning..but there's usually not many people on this late.


Thanks, Girlie!

julala
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   Posted 5/8/2018 9:26 AM (GMT -6)   
Loutucky said...
I am going to the Sunshine Clinic in 6 weeks. He does Kinesiology and Cold Laser for all the infections. The Facebook site that discusses this clinic simply provides testimonials from people who have had treatment there whether they were helped tremendously, just a little bit or not at all. The New England Lyme Laser Center in Massachusetts also does Cold Laser but for lyme disease only.

They want people to know that if you have been sick a long time and have many issues that it may take several visits but that the doctor is dedicated to finding out how to help you. Patients hear of miracles and then get upset because they are not cured in 4 days. I am going with reasonable expectations with a 20 year disease of multiple infections and viruses. Total system failure. Hoping and praying he can help me.

The first visit is 4 days for $1500. Followup visits are much cheaper from what I have been told because it may only consist of one or two days of treatment depending on your needs and because they are familiar with your case. I will say that one of my lyme doctors charges $250 for 45 minutes. Another charges $420 for 1.5 hours.

Apparently, this doctor is training other chiropractors with his protocol in hopes of being able to help more people. I think a lady in Vancouver, WA has trained under Dr. Sunshine and is now seeing patients and doing his treatment.

I wish you the best of luck with your decision. I haven't been yet so I can't comment on the actual protocols. They are now saying that the appointment wait list is up through early 2019.
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Oh, Wow, thanks, Loutucky! Do you know what his "success rate" is with Lyme or how long he's been treating it? I haven't found any Sunshine testimonials online about Lyme, except for one Instagram post from blazesomerflowers: https://www.instagram.com/p/BX5sHmSHssf/. If you know of any, can you please send me a link? Thank you so much for posting this!! I'm glad someone else out there is going to him.
Bitten 2013 & 2014
Diagnosed w/ Lyme 10/2015. W. Blot -- CDC Neg., IGenex positive.
Diagnosed w/ Babesiosis 10/2015 -- Pathgroup titer of 1:256.
Doxy 12/2015, 2 wks.; 3/2016, 3 wks.
IV Rocephin 1/2016, 12 days.
Colloidal Silver + DesBio homeopathy Lyme & Babesia 3/2016-5/2016
Minocycline 5/2016, 9 days.
Amoxicillin 3/2017, 3 wks?
On 37.5 mg Seroquel and 94 mcg Levothyroxine.

Loutucky
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   Posted 5/8/2018 10:05 AM (GMT -6)   
julala, the Facebook page is called Lyme Disease Healed. It is mainly about the Sunshine Clinic but people are allowed to post about any clinic they went to if it offered alternative treatment and they were happy or unhappy with it.

You have to keep scrolling to find testimonials. They are not in any particular order and they are both positive and negative about the clinic.

They ask that you request appointment by email only and you do not really know if they get it or not. This upsets people. They schedule the appointment in order of receiving them and contact you when your name comes up. The clinic was overran and they have to keep openings for their return patient followup visits. They do make exceptions for local people that can come in quickly when they have a sudden cancellation. Most patients apparently are out of state.

I requested an appointment in August and I'll admit I was anxious about not hearing anything so I continued searching out treatments with my current doctors. Then out of the blue, they called me in February for a June appointment .

Hope that helps because I really don't know anything about the clinic except for what I have read. No personal experience yet.

Post Edited (Loutucky) : 5/8/2018 2:51:35 PM (GMT-6)


Notime4lyme
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   Posted 5/8/2018 10:44 AM (GMT -6)   
One time I was talking with someone who said they heard of people getting really good results with a clinic, but they couldn't remember the name. I think they were talking about this one, but I'm not sure.

julala
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   Posted 5/8/2018 12:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Loutucky said...
julala, the Facebook page is called Lyme Disease Healed and the moderator is Lindsay Madison. It is mainly about the Sunshine Clinic but people are allowed to post about any clinic they went to if it offered alternative treatment and they were happy or unhappy with it.

You have to keep scrolling to find testimonials. They are not in any particular order and they are both positive and negative about the clinic.

They ask that you request appointment by email only and you do not really know if they get it or not. This upsets people. They schedule the appointment in order of receiving them and contact you when your name comes up. The clinic was overran and they have to keep openings for their return patient followup visits. They do make exceptions for local people that can come in quickly when they have a sudden cancellation. Most patients apparently are out of state.

I requested an appointment in August and I'll admit I was anxious about not hearing anything so I continued searching out treatments with my current doctors. Then out of the blue, they called me in February for a June appointment .

Hope that helps because I really don't know anything about the clinic except for what I have read. No personal experience yet.


Thanks, Lou!! I never would have found that Facebook page if you hadn't told me about it. Yes, they called me out of the blue like you, for an appt. in 2 weeks! I will let you know how it goes. I think I am going to go.

julala
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   Posted 5/8/2018 12:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Loutucky said...
julala, the Facebook page is called Lyme Disease Healed and the moderator is Lindsay Madison. It is mainly about the Sunshine Clinic but people are allowed to post about any clinic they went to if it offered alternative treatment and they were happy or unhappy with it.

You have to keep scrolling to find testimonials. They are not in any particular order and they are both positive and negative about the clinic.

They ask that you request appointment by email only and you do not really know if they get it or not. This upsets people. They schedule the appointment in order of receiving them and contact you when your name comes up. The clinic was overran and they have to keep openings for their return patient followup visits. They do make exceptions for local people that can come in quickly when they have a sudden cancellation. Most patients apparently are out of state.

I requested an appointment in August and I'll admit I was anxious about not hearing anything so I continued searching out treatments with my current doctors. Then out of the blue, they called me in February for a June appointment .

Hope that helps because I really don't know anything about the clinic except for what I have read. No personal experience yet.


I see Dee Anna is one of the moderators, and she works at Sunshine Clinic. Interesting!

Girlie
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   Posted 5/8/2018 12:24 PM (GMT -6)   
julala said...
Loutucky said...
julala, the Facebook page is called Lyme Disease Healed and the moderator is Lindsay Madison. It is mainly about the Sunshine Clinic but people are allowed to post about any clinic they went to if it offered alternative treatment and they were happy or unhappy with it.

You have to keep scrolling to find testimonials. They are not in any particular order and they are both positive and negative about the clinic.

They ask that you request appointment by email only and you do not really know if they get it or not. This upsets people. They schedule the appointment in order of receiving them and contact you when your name comes up. The clinic was overran and they have to keep openings for their return patient followup visits. They do make exceptions for local people that can come in quickly when they have a sudden cancellation. Most patients apparently are out of state.

I requested an appointment in August and I'll admit I was anxious about not hearing anything so I continued searching out treatments with my current doctors. Then out of the blue, they called me in February for a June appointment .

Hope that helps because I really don't know anything about the clinic except for what I have read. No personal experience yet.


I see Dee Anna is one of the moderators, and she works at Sunshine Clinic. Interesting!


Hmmm ... interesting indeed!
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

1000Daisies
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   Posted 5/8/2018 1:40 PM (GMT -6)   
I have gone to alternative medical practitioners who have helped many others. But yet, they failed to help my kids in any meaningful manner. I often wonder how they helped so many others but yet not us.

The important thing is whether they help you or not! Honestly, $1500 isn't that much compared to many of the other treatments that we've personally tried (or not tried). If it works, it's well worth every cent. If it doesn't, it was a very expensive experimental failure. And you really don't know until you do it for yourself.
(BUT I do totally agree - some practitioners are seriously over charging for their "services", and it is greatly disappointing.)

PLEASE reply back and give us an update. Many times, people go and improve (or perhaps not improve), but people don't post back. This would be excellent information to share with others if you are so inclined to do so!

I truly wish you the best that it helps the both of you! Positive vibes sent your way!
Kid#1: Extremely sick for several years, very difficult to treat, but doing great now!
Kid#2: Still sick now despite being treated for years but doing better (not well yet).
Kid#3: Generally good but relapsing off/on.
Me: Adv Labs positive 2016 (suspected I passed to my kids)-not as sick as others, mostly battling fatigue and yeast issues (heart/kidney issues resolved)
Treating with herbals now.

1000Daisies
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   Posted 5/8/2018 1:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Girlie said...

I think if he was that successful treating lyme, we'd have heard about it??


I kind of agree with this, but I also kind of don't either. LOL

My functional medicine LLMD is well known in my neck of the woods, and people travel far (out of state) to see him. He gets the "puzzler" and difficult cases that the regular doctors fail to help (like so many of us). And yet, I never see him mentioned on this board, and he has helped many people.

I think sometimes we focus too much on this board on the "big names", but there are other doctors who fly under the radar who are more than capable (and affordable) and who have helped many others.
The problem is finding them! smile

Having said that, having been through this for several years now, I tend to be more skeptical than others at this point too!
Kid#1: Extremely sick for several years, very difficult to treat, but doing great now!
Kid#2: Still sick now despite being treated for years but doing better (not well yet).
Kid#3: Generally good but relapsing off/on.
Me: Adv Labs positive 2016 (suspected I passed to my kids)-not as sick as others, mostly battling fatigue and yeast issues (heart/kidney issues resolved)
Treating with herbals now.

Girlie
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   Posted 5/8/2018 2:21 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, 1000Daisies...true.

One of the reasons we don't discuss Dr's is because we can't identify them...just initials...we're wanting to keep them anonymous.
(except for the well-known ones - like Horotwiz/Jemsek)
It would be a lot easier if we could use their full names.

But, with clinics...we don't pause to mention the names...ie we talk about Hansa centre , and others on here .


I do think that if there was a solid alternative treatment that had really good success, we'd all hear about it.

Even Yolanda with all her money couldn't find the magic bullet.

If I had the cash, would I go to a clinic? Heck yes...sign me up for the Hansa center. Even if I didn't have the cash...I'd find it somehow IF the Hansa centre was a sure thing...or close to a sure thing...I'd be there in a heartbeat. But to spend $10,000 PLUS for a week or two and it being 50/50 - that's not good enough for me
...or the hyperthermia...if there were enough successes vs failures...I'd most likely do that, too.

It's crazy that we really haven't progressed much in the past 4 years...since I've been on this merry-go-round.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

julala
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   Posted 5/10/2018 9:47 AM (GMT -6)   
I am going there for four days next week -- Mon. through Thurs. I read a bunch of glowing reviews on their private FB page, specifically about Lyme. So, I am going for it. I will let you know how it goes!! Based on what other people have said, it may take time and a few to several follow-ups.

Girlie
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   Posted 5/10/2018 10:37 AM (GMT -6)   
julala said...
I am going there for four days next week -- Mon. through Thurs. I read a bunch of glowing reviews on their private FB page, specifically about Lyme. So, I am going for it. I will let you know how it goes!! Based on what other people have said, it may take time and a few to several follow-ups.


Good luck, julala. Please do let us know how it goes.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

Loutucky
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   Posted 5/10/2018 1:53 PM (GMT -6)   
julaia, hoping you have a successful visit and healing.

julala
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   Posted 5/10/2018 4:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you for the well-wishes, Loutucky and Girlie!! I will keep you posted.
Bitten 2013 & 2014
Diagnosed w/ Lyme 10/2015. W. Blot -- CDC Neg., IGenex positive.
Diagnosed w/ Babesiosis 10/2015 -- Pathgroup titer of 1:256.
Doxy 12/2015, 2 wks.; 3/2016, 3 wks.
IV Rocephin 1/2016, 12 days.
Colloidal Silver + DesBio homeopathy Lyme & Babesia 3/2016-5/2016
Minocycline 5/2016, 9 days.
Amoxicillin 3/2017, 3 wks?
On 37.5 mg Seroquel and 94 mcg Levothyroxine.

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   Posted 6/18/2018 11:57 AM (GMT -6)   
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