Stem cell therapy improves chronic lyme disease symptoms - case report

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   Posted 5/10/2018 2:55 AM (GMT -6)   
Improvement of common variable immunodeficiency using embryonic stem cell therapy in a patient with lyme disease: a clinical case report
4 April 2018

Richard Horowitz & Phyllis R. Freeman

/onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/ccr3.1556

it is also impressive the list of things that poor young fellow tried before stem cells sad

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   Posted 5/10/2018 2:29 PM (GMT -6)   
I looked into this and basically its next to impossible to find this treatment, and many that offer it are actually scams


this study used "human embryonic stem cell therapy"

if anyone knows where a person could get this treatment, please post, thank you

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   Posted 5/10/2018 2:32 PM (GMT -6)   
i just shared a research paper. i know yolanda foster has tried it too
/nypost.com/2017/09/11/yolanda-hadid-made-her-own-poop-lab-to-treat-her-lyme-disease/

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mpost said...
i just shared a research paper. i know yolanda foster has tried it too
/nypost.com/2017/09/11/yolanda-hadid-made-her-own-poop-lab-to-treat-her-lyme-disease/


says she did Stem-cell treatment in Tijuana for $30,000

wow...okay...

Somebody said...
In spring 2014, Yolanda made her first trip to Tijuana, Mexico, for an embryonic stem-cell treatment with William Rader. (The treatment isn’t legal in the US, and Rader’s medical license was revoked by California authorities for negligence, professional misconduct, and false or misleading advertising, according to the LA Times). She ends up having to walk back across the border in what she describes as “a scene straight out of ‘Dallas Buyers Club,’” and says the energy-lifting results only lasted a few weeks.

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   Posted 5/10/2018 3:01 PM (GMT -6)   
and she is not cured. so again ... maybe there are other things to try first before emptying pocket on ... that ...

nevertheless, there is a case report it helped at least one patient with a very complicated condition...

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   Posted 5/10/2018 3:11 PM (GMT -6)   
its very possible the treatment she got was not the same quality as the treatment the person in the study got

like I said, apparently a lot of clinics offering stem cell treatments are actually scams.

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   Posted 5/10/2018 4:59 PM (GMT -6)   
The big place for this treatment is in Panama.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtL1fEEtLaA


There are several labs such as liveyon lab where your doc can get these cells for you. It took me about 5 minutes to find 4 docs that offer this-use google and you will find some

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   Posted 5/10/2018 5:40 PM (GMT -6)   
mpost said...
and she is not cured. so again ... maybe there are other things to try first before emptying pocket on ... that ...

nevertheless, there is a case report it helped at least one patient with a very complicated condition...


Are you talking about Yolanda? She is in remission (cured or whatever you want to call it) - but it wasn't after the stem cells...according to her.
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   Posted 5/10/2018 6:17 PM (GMT -6)   
What did Yolonda say worked?

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magoo2 said...
What did Yolonda say worked?


The last thing was removing her leaking breast implants - (I think in 2017) An news article;

“Fortunately, the procedure went well and Hadid was able to detox the remaining silicone that was inaccessible during surgery. That moment was the beginning of her move toward remission.”
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   Posted 5/10/2018 8:33 PM (GMT -6)   
After explant surgery she had the CCSVI surgery. She had stems several times. They do take 6 months+ to continue to work so who knows exactly what the magic bullet was - I’d say it was probably all of it. She definitely seemed to turn a corner after breast explant and divorce. She sees Klinghardt so addressed parasite, metals, did lDI, etc...

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   Posted 5/10/2018 8:55 PM (GMT -6)   
In Michigan
https://youtu.be/0R-mrMT7_i4

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magoo2 said...
The big place for this treatment is in Panama.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtL1fEEtLaA


There are several labs such as liveyon lab where your doc can get these cells for you. It took me about 5 minutes to find 4 docs that offer this-use google and you will find some


just because a doc offers it doesnt mean its quality

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   Posted 5/10/2018 10:19 PM (GMT -6)   
My naturopath here in BC Canada offers stem cell therapy. I had it done once a month from about 18 months ago to 10 months ago every 2 months. Something in it and other supplements did improve my knee but then we hit a plateau where the last several sessions did not help any and so we paused the treatment. We then resumed with a session at the end of January this year and again 3 weeks ago.Improvement started building up again but it is slow. I am slowly regaining possibility of movement with my knee. I think i am better by 50% where I was 2 years with this darned knee of mine. I am in year 5 with my knee since all this bad business started.

Every step hurts. The clicking in my knee sounds like a snare drum. Doc used to withdraw 80 cc of knee fluid every 2 weeks. Now that figure is down to 30cc. He was also telling me that the older one is, the slower the stem cell therapy works. I am hoping that by christmas, i will be able to throw my cane away and stop driving those scooters around the stores when wife and i go shopping. Going for a holiday is out of the question when i have to hobble around. Where is the enjoyment of it. I wish things went faster but.........thats lyme. When i think of my condition, tears of frustration well up within me. Doc said that some of the supplements he is giving me now make my emotions really accute and unmanagable. And that has proven to be true too. even small things of frustration can set me up for a spin of hard to control emotions. When those emotions sweep over me i feel helpless and so vulnerable to the ravages of this scourge. xfmlg

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   Posted 5/10/2018 11:58 PM (GMT -6)   
k07 said...
After explant surgery she had the CCSVI surgery. She had stems several times. They do take 6 months+ to continue to work so who knows exactly what the magic bullet was - I’d say it was probably all of it. She definitely seemed to turn a corner after breast explant and divorce. She sees Klinghardt so addressed parasite, metals, did lDI, etc...



Looks like she had Cavitation surgery last when she was at 90%

"Yolanda Hadid is like 90% well, but there’s still a part of her that hasn’t completely recovered from Lyme Disease. No, never that! But perhaps with this latest procedure, she’s finally solved her medical mysteries?


Yolanda has been in Switzerland completing the final stage in her Lyme journey with a long-awaited “cavitation surgery,” which is some sort of addition to her previous mercury removing dental surgery. She shared the above photo of the procedure. "
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Post Edited (Girlie) : 5/11/2018 12:02:28 AM (GMT-6)


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   Posted 5/10/2018 11:59 PM (GMT -6)   
yeah one million dollars later, and she is still at 90% ... sad

this is why we need more research for the disease. yolanda cannot buy a breakthrough at a clinic. u need to fund researchers and have patience.

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mpost said...
yeah one million dollars later, and she is still at 90% ... sad

this is why we need more research for the disease. yolanda cannot buy a breakthrough at a clinic. u need to fund researchers and have patience.


Well she was at 90% when she had the cavitation surgery...maybe she's 95% now....

There may be more healing over time...the damage...
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   Posted 5/11/2018 6:40 AM (GMT -6)   
Lapis- I wouldn't assume that they are bad stems either.

On the Yolonda story-I did read her book and she did stems several times-they may well have helped.

It seems to me like she corrected what was wrong in her body- implants-several dental surgeries with biological dds-treated parasites-changed diet-metals. Yep it sucks how much money that cost but at least there is a path forward

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   Posted 5/11/2018 6:50 AM (GMT -6)   
Girlie said...
mpost said...
yeah one million dollars later, and she is still at 90% ... sad

this is why we need more research for the disease. yolanda cannot buy a breakthrough at a clinic. u need to fund researchers and have patience.


Well she was at 90% when she had the cavitation surgery...maybe she's 95% now....

There may be more healing over time...the damage...


I'm fairly certain she says she's in remission.

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xfmlg said...
My naturopath here in BC Canada offers stem cell therapy. I had it done once a month from about 18 months ago to 10 months ago every 2 months. Something in it and other supplements did improve my knee but then we hit a plateau where the last several sessions did not help any and so we paused the treatment. We then resumed with a session at the end of January this year and again 3 weeks ago.Improvement started building up again but it is slow. I am slowly regaining possibility of movement with my knee. I think i am better by 50% where I was 2 years with this darned knee of mine. I am in year 5 with my knee since all this bad business started.

Every step hurts. The clicking in my knee sounds like a snare drum. Doc used to withdraw 80 cc of knee fluid every 2 weeks. Now that figure is down to 30cc. He was also telling me that the older one is, the slower the stem cell therapy works. I am hoping that by christmas, i will be able to throw my cane away and stop driving those scooters around the stores when wife and i go shopping. Going for a holiday is out of the question when i have to hobble around. Where is the enjoyment of it. I wish things went faster but.........thats lyme. When i think of my condition, tears of frustration well up within me. Doc said that some of the supplements he is giving me now make my emotions really accute and unmanagable. And that has proven to be true too. even small things of frustration can set me up for a spin of hard to control emotions. When those emotions sweep over me i feel helpless and so vulnerable to the ravages of this scourge. xfmlg


whta kind of stem cell therapy are you getting?

are they taking your own stem cells and re-injecting them? or is it embryonic stem cell therapy? there is a big difference.

also, for your knee look into DMSO, its the perfect therapy for that type of situation


/www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3914807

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magoo2 said...
Lapis- I wouldn't assume that they are bad stems either.

On the Yolonda story-I did read her book and she did stems several times-they may well have helped.

It seems to me like she corrected what was wrong in her body- implants-several dental surgeries with biological dds-treated parasites-changed diet-metals. Yep it sucks how much money that cost but at least there is a path forward


she says the mexican stem cell treatment gave her a boost of energy for a few months, the korean stem cell treatment was an utter waste of time and money.

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   Posted 5/11/2018 8:19 AM (GMT -6)   
I actually banked all 3 of my kids stem cells at birth. Maybe I can use them for a discount, lol!

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Lapis_29 said...
xfmlg said...
My naturopath here in BC Canada offers stem cell therapy. I had it done once a month from about 18 months ago to 10 months ago every 2 months. Something in it and other supplements did improve my knee but then we hit a plateau where the last several sessions did not help any and so we paused the treatment. We then resumed with a session at the end of January this year and again 3 weeks ago.Improvement started building up again but it is slow. I am slowly regaining possibility of movement with my knee. I think i am better by 50% where I was 2 years with this darned knee of mine. I am in year 5 with my knee since all this bad business started.

Every step hurts. The clicking in my knee sounds like a snare drum. Doc used to withdraw 80 cc of knee fluid every 2 weeks. Now that figure is down to 30cc. He was also telling me that the older one is, the slower the stem cell therapy works. I am hoping that by christmas, i will be able to throw my cane away and stop driving those scooters around the stores when wife and i go shopping. Going for a holiday is out of the question when i have to hobble around. Where is the enjoyment of it. I wish things went faster but.........thats lyme. When i think of my condition, tears of frustration well up within me. Doc said that some of the supplements he is giving me now make my emotions really accute and unmanagable. And that has proven to be true too. even small things of frustration can set me up for a spin of hard to control emotions. When those emotions sweep over me i feel helpless and so vulnerable to the ravages of this scourge. xfmlg


whta kind of stem cell therapy are you getting?

are they taking your own stem cells and re-injecting them? or is it embryonic stem cell therapy? there is a big difference.

also, for your knee look into DMSO, its the perfect therapy for that type of situation


/www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3914807


I think he is doing the PRP (his own blood)
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