Liposomal Artemisinin treatment regimen for Babesia

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garnet10
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   Posted 5/12/2018 11:44 AM (GMT -6)   
Reading very different dosing regimens for artemisinin for Babesia.

We have the Liposomal Artemisinin. Dr. H's. book states 1 cap (100 mg) twice a day.

Buhner's Lyme Coinfections book recommends 100-200 mg three times a day for 30-60 days.

Others recommend pulsing Artemisinin--3 days on, several days off.

I have also seen a recommendation for 3 weeks on, one week off.

I am so confused as to which would be the best option.

If you have used Liposomal Artemisinin, which regimen did you follow?

Girlie
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   Posted 5/12/2018 12:15 PM (GMT -6)   
I didn’t use the liposomall but I took up to 1500 mg daily a couple years ago

I pulsed it 3 or 4 on and 10 days off.

I now take 1600 per day for three days one week and 5 days the next followed by 2 weeks off (per Dr J)


I wouldn’t take it without pulsing.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

Girlie
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   Posted 5/12/2018 12:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Llmd MR in his online book states 3 days on is max to be safe in preventing the small intestine from developing an enzyme that renders it useless. (11 days off)
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

Post Edited (Girlie) : 5/12/2018 12:21:09 PM (GMT-6)


garnet10
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   Posted 5/12/2018 12:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Girlie said...
I didn’t use the liposomall but I took up to 1500 mg daily a couple years ago

I pulsed it 3 or 4 on and 10 days off.

I now take 1600 per day for three days one week and 5 days the next followed by 2 weeks off (per Dr J)

I wouldn’t take it without pulsing.


This is the problem--so many different regimens by different well-known, experienced providers.

Dr. J's protocol is yet another, completely different regimen than any others I've encountered.

Thank you for posting the regimen you are using.

Post Edited (garnet10) : 5/12/2018 12:55:34 PM (GMT-6)


Rikky1
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   Posted 5/12/2018 12:42 PM (GMT -6)   
garnet the point isn't the because there are so many different approaches to taking this herb that people don't know what's effective. the point is they're all effective people just have different approaches to taking it.

pulsing seems to be the best approach as there's debate that if taken every day for too long your body grows resistant to it.

Girlie
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   Posted 5/12/2018 1:02 PM (GMT -6)   
garnet10 said...
Girlie said...
I didn’t use the liposomall but I took up to 1500 mg daily a couple years ago

I pulsed it 3 or 4 on and 10 days off.

I now take 1600 per day for three days one week and 5 days the next followed by 2 weeks off (per Dr J)

I wouldn’t take it without pulsing.


This is the problem--so many different regimens by different well-known, experienced providers.

Dr. J's protocol is yet another, completely different regimen than any others I've encountered.

Thank you for posting the regimen you are using.


The takeaway is to pulse it. Since there are several llmd’s who say to pulse it - I wouldn’t take it more than a week without a break.
Err on the side of caution imo
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

PDXtransplant
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   Posted 5/12/2018 3:36 PM (GMT -6)   
I used liposomal. I was 5 days on, 2 days off.
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