Those who haveImproved bartonella , lyme , or other confections

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LJohn23
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Date Joined Mar 2018
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   Posted 5/13/2018 6:31 PM (GMT -6)   
What is life like now that you are cured? Is it drastically different. Do you feel like a brand new person? Do you feel more lively and "with it"? I've had bartonella so long I dont really know what to expect. I think I feel okay, but I also feel like my okay is probably not good for those healthier individuals. I just know im not who I should be because I have this. I feel like there's a disconnection between me and people. I have the other usual symptoms of brat like painful soles andrandom ass stretch marks. But the disconnection has got to be the worst thing going for me. Btw im doing Stephen burners bart protocol just started.

Post Edited (LJohn23) : 5/13/2018 7:37:54 PM (GMT-6)


CoreyTucker
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Date Joined May 2018
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   Posted 5/13/2018 8:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Remember to detox I'm starting Cowden Protocol on Monday.

Girlie
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   Posted 5/13/2018 10:50 PM (GMT -6)   
I still have some symptoms, but when I have a good day that is symptom free...or close to it...it's like the weight of the world has lifted...I feel so good...

Unfortunately good days like that are few and far between. maybe 1 per week (2 on a good week)
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

mpost
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   Posted 5/14/2018 2:04 AM (GMT -6)   
it is very difficult to get cured of chronic bartonella because if u have chronic bart it means there is something wrong with your immune system.

one way to get cured of chronic bart for people with HIV is to get HIV treatment. When your immune system bounces back from antiviral HIV treatment, your bart gets cornered and u are again symptom free.

It remains to be seen what treatments are best for lyme. What we take now is just keeping bart from eating us alive but does not address the main problem. People with AIDS, especially homeless, were put generally on antibiotics very often because of bart. But also on antifungals because of candida, which for AIDS can kill you ... Again this DOES NOT MEAN bart was resolved with antibiotics for these people, the solution was addressing the core of the immune dysfunction , which was the HIV.

Bart is a generally benign parasite. It does not cause harm in normal people. You are not normal, this is the problem sad
In probably 90% cases on forum here, it's because of the lyme persisters that dampen our immune system. As soon as you wipe these out, the immune system starts working again.

Unfortunately the treatment for lyme persisters is only in its infancy, so most/many of the people on forum here with chronic lyme, have persisters deep into tissues. these create immune impairment similar to AIDS but not nearly as severe. But enough for Bart to become a problem.

And if someone here says there is no proof of that then please tell me why Dr H's sickest patients that no longer herx on mino/doxy have huge herx on dapsone ... why are they herxing if they were treated with years of abx previously ....well ...persisters....

1000Daisies
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   Posted 5/14/2018 10:35 AM (GMT -6)   
My Kid#1 was extremely, severely sick for MANY years. We treated him for several years, and he is now well for over a year now. Since this affected him during critical, developmental years of childhood, it's hard to compare before/after.
But he went from a nonfunctioning, very debilitated child to a normal, living life teenager - just a normal teen.
He went from missing a considerable amount of school (I mean - A LOT!) for years -- to a an A/B student looking at potential colleges for life after high school.
He went from severe depression and anti-social attitude -- to being an active teen who hangs out with his friends and is happy.

There is HOPE - even with extremely challenging to treat cases like my kid!
Kid#1: Extremely sick for several years, very difficult to treat, but doing great now!
Kid#2: Still sick now despite being treated for years but doing better (not well yet).
Kid#3: Generally good but relapsing off/on.
Me: Adv Labs positive 2016 (suspected I passed to my kids)-not as sick as others, mostly battling fatigue and yeast issues (heart/kidney issues resolved)
Treating with herbals now.

Girlie
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Date Joined May 2014
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   Posted 5/14/2018 11:37 AM (GMT -6)   
1000Daisies said...
My Kid#1 was extremely, severely sick for MANY years. We treated him for several years, and he is now well for over a year now. Since this affected him during critical, developmental years of childhood, it's hard to compare before/after.


So are there some things that he has left over - that you're not sure if lyme caused?
Moderator, Lyme Forum
Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi
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