ChickenArise - Bart question

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WalkingbyFaith
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   Posted 5/15/2018 8:26 AM (GMT -6)   
ChickenArise,

In your response on another thread, you said:

"In trying to attack Bartonella I failed miserably and suffered side effects that I mistook for disease symptoms from every treatment designated for Bartonella both natural and antibiotic.

It seems the failure rate of treating Bartonella is so high that there must be more to it than meets the eye.

It is only after I began to approach Bartonella as if it exists in conjunction with a fungus that I made any progress, yet I still have some symptoms which are attributed to Bartonella."


I definitely agree that there is more to bart than meets the eye.

Did you do some kind of anti-fungal treatment that resolved some of your bart symptoms?

I know you had mold. I am mold sick, too. I have not had any signs of fungal infections though, unless IBS-C is a sign. I have not taken any Rx anti-fungals, and I don't know what natural treatments there are. I take Buhner herbs, most of which have multiple uses.

ChickenArise
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   Posted 5/15/2018 9:32 AM (GMT -6)   
Yes I did 2 courses of itraconazole (11 days, 30 days) and separately Fluconazole (18 months). I also did Terbinifine twice for 14 days.

Several symptoms which are attributed to Bartonella cleared. If something else aided this I included it in parenthesis. I also used Doxycycline for some of the time I was on Fluconazole and it aided it.

Confusion/ Brain Fog (Nascent Iodine)
3 day headaches
Eyes/Vision: increased floaters, foreign object feeling
Tinnitus
Pelvic pain
Twitching of the face or other muscles
hair loss
some shock sensations

The following symtpms attributed to Bartonella only cleared from the addition of the medicine in parenthesis:

Testicular pain (L-Lysine)
Chest pain (Clarithromycin)
Tingling (stays at bay with Fluconazole or Carnicom Protocol)

Has not improved or is worse:
Fatigue
Eyes/Vision: Degrading Eye sight
Pain in calf and leg muscles

There is still occasional itching from fungal infection ongoing as mold is throught my system. For this I am doing RI ozone, ozone water, and Cholestyramine.

I will be adding ear insulflations of ozone to try to assist the mold out of brain and nearby areas. The back of my throat glows under UV light and I believe this is mold from brain draining into tonsil wall area.

2014 Mold Sick,2015 Clinical Lyme and co.,2016 Morgellons,2017 Remission
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Twitter: @ClintFromNYtoVA
updated 21apr18 Blog: www.fascinatingtimetobealive.blogspot.com/
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Notime4lyme
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   Posted 5/15/2018 9:43 AM (GMT -6)   
Interesting. I have bartonella and I don't have most of the symptoms you say cleared from the fluconazole. Maybe it was also killing off something else?

ChickenArise
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   Posted 5/15/2018 10:29 AM (GMT -6)   
Notime4lyme said...
Interesting. I have bartonella and I don't have most of the symptoms you say cleared from the fluconazole. Maybe it was also killing off something else?


It is highly likely that it could very well be. It amazes me how closely symptoms match mold sickness especially the calf and leg pains which sound identical. Cant seem to get rid of these, but will likely attempt ozone bagging them. Seems a long shot but cant hurt to try.

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bluelyme
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   Posted 5/16/2018 2:53 AM (GMT -6)   
bee venom and houttynia solve my bart and fungal issues....chicken, have you tried coptis or golden thread per ginger savely protocol for your helminith component?

ChickenArise
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   Posted 5/16/2018 6:14 AM (GMT -6)   
As far as I can tell the worms are gone. These are my current remaining symptoms as copied from my health notes:

SKIN ITCH
SKIN 'SAND' (neck, shoulders, front and back near lungs, upper GI)
FATIGUE
EXCESSIVE THIRST
EXCVESSIVE URINATION
SORENESS IN LEGS
Intermittent GI TENDERNESS
MINOR TESTICULAR IRR (CYST - clearing with continued use of Lysine)
INFLAMMATION
Loss of sight L eye (and now R eye)
UV light throat glow, soles of feet, fingertips, scalp/hair
BUMP on rear third of inner R forearm
Swollen Veins
nasal discharge (green boogers)
Excessive GAS (may be Kratom fermentation internally)
sometimes spleen area tender may be GI misread.
Back of tongue gray (used to be black at one time)

Some symptoms like inflammation are directly related to ongoing mold exposure and some others may be caused as any dimorphic mold works its way to yeast.

There used to be some fiber protrusions visible only with UV light, although my UV flashlight broke so I havent been able to check for them recently.

I hit this condition with antifungal, anthelmintics, and antibiotics before I ever saw fibers in the visible light spectrum which is why I take issue with Savely defining the condition by the visible fibers. You can have Morgellons well before the manifestation of fibers in the visible light spectrum, you just need a UV flashlight to know.

As long as there is nothing in the visible light spectrum I am not too concerned with it. I will eventually get another UV flashlight.

2014 Mold Sick,2015 Clinical Lyme and co.,2016 Morgellons,2017 Remission
YT: ClintFromNYtoVA2
Twitter: @ClintFromNYtoVA
updated 21apr18 Blog: www.fascinatingtimetobealive.blogspot.com/
" The path to disappointment is paved with expectations "

Post Edited (ChickenArise) : 5/16/2018 8:39:18 AM (GMT-6)


ChickenArise
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   Posted 5/16/2018 7:27 PM (GMT -6)   
For the record I want to add one interesting symptom that I was complaining of today only to be told by my wife that she also feels this from time to time.

The spleen begins to spasm intermittently and rapidly. If I didnt know better I might think it were a heart arrhythmia but it is located just below the rib cage on the left side where the spleen is.

If any one else experiences this please chime in and please check to see if you are unknowingly affected by mold.

2014 Mold Sick,2015 Clinical Lyme and co.,2016 Morgellons,2017 Remission
YT: ClintFromNYtoVA2
Twitter: @ClintFromNYtoVA
updated 21apr18 Blog: www.fascinatingtimetobealive.blogspot.com/
" The path to disappointment is paved with expectations "
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