Lyme headache possible cure?

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Donjr
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   Posted 5/18/2018 9:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Ok so I have had a headache for a few days the terrible deep one nothing works on it, and I used listerine the purple looking one and gargled tonight for 60 seconds and about 2 mins later my headache left. Is this a remedy? Who knows but I will try again if it returns and we know it will, so try it let’s see anyone with headaches from their Lyme let us know. Crazy I know or maybe this Lyme has me crazy lol but could be a fluke but wow glad it is gone

mpost
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   Posted 5/18/2018 11:16 PM (GMT -6)   
yes. ibuprofen and/or acetaminofen. of course it's not a good idea to take them for months. just during worst of headaches.

red root in large doses also helps a bit. but not as much as the ones above.

i have the headaches for a few days, then they go , and return several months later.

Girlie
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   Posted 5/18/2018 11:25 PM (GMT -6)   
I don’t get headaches with Lyme - but prelyme once in awhile I’d get one and take an AC&C

They do have codeine - not everyone wants that - but it knocked the headache out completely

It’s not something you want to take regularly tho.
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added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
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10LymeB
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   Posted 5/18/2018 11:54 PM (GMT -6)   
It's the menthol in the Listerine that's clearing your headache. This actually makes sense. That being the case, do you notice your sinuses feel clear after rinsing with it? Years and years ago, I used to take those Listerine pocket-pack strips for headaches. At the time, I didn't make the sinus connection. Took me a while to get there, but they always offered relief. And I went through them like candy.

If your sinuses feel clear after rinsing, your headaches are sinus related which means you might have marcons in your sinuses - a tricky infection that a lot of Lyme patients have. I got relief from ozone up the sinuses, but not for long.

The Listerine will be a temp solution, but you should start thinking about detoxing your life - no harsh chemicals. There is a natural/essential oil roll-on called "Headache Magic" that I now use. Find online. It helps so much. Also, passionflower tea is like a miracle for headaches. I recently got my stepson's girlfriend to try it and she loves it.

All in all, everything relates to your gut. Wheat and sugar are your enemies. If you haven't already cut those out, start doing that too. I've had migraines my whole life. I'm an expert on this stuff. LOL.
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mpost
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   Posted 5/19/2018 1:22 AM (GMT -6)   
Girlie said...


They do have codeine - not everyone wants that - but it knocked the headache out completely

It’s not something you want to take regularly tho.


i would not take codeine unless im on death bed. it creates addiction big time. u will not he able to stop it. u cannot drive vehicles if u take it.

try something less dangerous, ibuprofen, first.... red root etc.

Girlie
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   Posted 5/19/2018 1:30 AM (GMT -6)   
mpost said...
Girlie said...


They do have codeine - not everyone wants that - but it knocked the headache out completely

It’s not something you want to take regularly tho.


i would not take codeine unless im on death bed. it creates addiction big time. u will not he able to stop it. u cannot drive vehicles if u take it.

try something less dangerous, ibuprofen, first.... red root etc.


Lol mpost!! - they have a low dose of codeine and are sold without a prescription.
You can drive a car after taking one.
It doesn’t create an addiction if you use them occasionally - for me it would be once every month or two. No addiction.

T3’s - now those are different. Higher amount of Codeine. I would be loopy on them. I had a script for t3’s after surgery and I took them daily for a week and then stopped them. No addiction with them since it was short term.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

Girlie
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   Posted 5/19/2018 1:34 AM (GMT -6)   
Btw Ibuprofen isn’t harmless - look it up - the NSAID’s have side effects and risks
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

mpost
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   Posted 5/19/2018 2:59 AM (GMT -6)   
Girlie said...
Btw Ibuprofen isn’t harmless - look it up - the NSAID’s have side effects and risks


i know, but codeine is an opiate.... ppl need to know they can get in trouble by taking it.

last thing i need after chronic neuro lyme is opiate addiction sad

Girlie
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   Posted 5/19/2018 8:39 AM (GMT -6)   
mpost said...
Girlie said...
Btw Ibuprofen isn’t harmless - look it up - the NSAID’s have side effects and risks


i know, but codeine is an opiate.... ppl need to know they can get in trouble by taking it.

last thing i need after chronic neuro lyme is opiate addiction sad


If you already have an addiction - you shouldn’t take it but it’s such a low dose that taking it occasionally won’t cause a dependence .

People don’t realize the risks and side effects of NSAID’s

/draxe.com/dangers-of-nsaids/
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

summer16
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   Posted 5/19/2018 9:21 AM (GMT -6)   
Excedrine Migraine and caffeinated coffee worked wonders for me.

acarined
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   Posted 5/19/2018 10:50 AM (GMT -6)   
Gargling stimulates the vagus nerve, next time try with a glass of water and see if you get the same effect.

astroman
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   Posted 5/19/2018 12:52 PM (GMT -6)   
acarined said...
Gargling stimulates the vagus nerve, next time try with a glass of water and see if you get the same effect.


Bending your head / neck back (Gargling) is something we dont do day to day either.

I bend my neck all over and then self-crack it to "fix" my headache.

Mind body spirit
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   Posted 6/10/2018 5:19 PM (GMT -6)   
I had terrible headaches and had temporary relief using many methods

Lately have experienced much relief doing an intensive hulda Clark parasite cleanse internally and also in my nasal cavity (10%salt, 10% apple cider vinegar, which probably does the trick but I added a pinch of clove, some oil of oregano, and colloidal silver) nasal cavity cleared after a few days and much less pressure.

I’m eating much less mucous building foods, and incorporating a lot of natural anti inflammatorys
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