If abx. does not work, what should I do?

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Hypatiac
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   Posted 5/21/2018 6:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Honestly I am totally lost. Almost 3 months since I first started abx. and my symptoms are the same or worse if anything. I do not know what to do other than waiting for the unknown meanwhile I feel how it progresses and gives me harder times. If you have any suggestion I would appreciate that if you share it with me.

dacarte3
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   Posted 5/21/2018 6:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Hypatiac said...
Honestly I am totally lost. Almost 3 months since I first started abx. and my symptoms are the same or worse if anything. I do not know what to do other than waiting for the unknown meanwhile I feel how it progresses and gives me harder times. If you have any suggestion I would appreciate that if you share it with me.


Can you give us a quick summary of what else you are doing?

It is not uncommon whatsoever for JUST ABX to not be enough to feel significantly better. Even if the ABX is successfully killing the microbes there's damage and/or dysfunctions that being infected with lyme and co causes and one must nurse the body back to health.

So it doesn't mean the ABX did not or is not working but you have to support your body as well to recover from the mutli systemic assault these pathogenic microbes have put on your body.
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   Posted 5/21/2018 6:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Have you only treated Lyme.. or also coinfections? I’m thinking at three months you may have just treated Lyme

You can switch over to herbals
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Runninheid
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   Posted 5/21/2018 6:44 PM (GMT -6)   
I've been treating with abx and herbs for 11 months. Around 7 months things started getting better. The last 4 months have been better overall with a few really really bad spells every few weeks.

Everyone is different, but I think most are in this for the long-haul, meaning, this takes a lot of time.

Keep up treatment, but don't be afraid to switch things up. I think as long as you are doing something, you are most likely gaining ground.
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Hypatiac
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   Posted 5/21/2018 6:51 PM (GMT -6)   
dacarte3 said...
Hypatiac said...
Honestly I am totally lost. Almost 3 months since I first started abx. and my symptoms are the same or worse if anything. I do not know what to do other than waiting for the unknown meanwhile I feel how it progresses and gives me harder times. If you have any suggestion I would appreciate that if you share it with me.


Can you give us a quick summary of what else you are doing?

It is not uncommon whatsoever for JUST ABX to not be enough to feel significantly better. Even if the ABX is successfully killing the microbes there's damage and/or dysfunctions that being infected with lyme and co causes and one must nurse the body back to health.

So it doesn't mean the ABX did not or is not working but you have to support your body as well to recover from the mutli systemic assault these pathogenic microbes have put on your body.


Thank you for your response, I am taking some supplements like Magnesium, Zinc,Vit B12, Vit C. Apart from that oregano oil, boswellia, turmeric, milk thistle and some more... The thing is mine progressed very quickly, I get cought in last september, since then every month I have some new symptoms. Started with grip like sysmtoms, next months numbness, muscle pain, severe fatigue, and on Xmas nigh bell's palsy sad then my knee pain started, it was at least on right one now it also migrates to left one in the last 20 days. By the way I do detox baths as well. I do not know how else I am supposed to deal with it, plus I cannot ****ing stop crying...

goshawk
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   Posted 5/21/2018 6:52 PM (GMT -6)   
If you are feeling worse it also could be due to herxing and the fact that the bacteria is being killed off.

Are you using any detox methods or binders? It may help a bit.



You also could add in some herbals like Girlie said. Many take abx and herbals together for treatment.

Herbals can be potent so always check for side effects and contradictions.

Post Edited (goshawk) : 5/21/2018 6:55:04 PM (GMT-6)


Hypatiac
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   Posted 5/21/2018 6:59 PM (GMT -6)   
Girlie said...
Have you only treated Lyme.. or also coinfections? I’m thinking at three months you may have just treated Lyme

You can switch over to herbals


Girlie, I remember you waning me about co-enfecs. around 1 month ago but my doc. is weird, I ask her a question and she does not even reply me. She only gave me Doxy and zitro first, then I begged her to switch when I had babesia symptoms, then she game me malaron and zitro. As far as I know zitro does not do anything for me, I got amoxisilin instead of it 2 weeks ago and nothing... No improvement. Some of my friend suggested I should get flagy, she did nit even give it to me. Is it normal when a doctor does not answer your question? She just does not... Unfortunatelly there is no any other LLMD around here apart from her.
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