what "natural" cyst and biofilm dosages are effective?

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Y o g i
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   Posted 5/21/2018 10:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi,

Does anyone know a recommended dosage for any of the natural cyst/biofilm dissolvers that is effective?

I've been pulsing 2 days of Tindizole and its brutal - but seems to be breaking up the biofilm/cysts really well. It makes me feel HORRIBLE.

Wondering if anyone knows the dosage or if natural ones are really affective ~ I understand everyone is different, I guess I'm asking what the highest "safe" level is to be ingested.

Thank you so much - sending you all hope and healing.
Sarah
L o v e life/healed! Train Wreck: Oct 2012; cd-57: 29. April 2013 diagnosed. MTHRF x2. 6 Mths of Mino, Omnicef & Tinidazole. Factive for Bart (2 mths). Serrepeptase 12,000 2x daily 2bust cysts, Antitox, med. oregano oil, olive leaf oil, A-Bart, Cumunda, bnderal, cinnm bark, chorella, NAC, milk thistle, co-Q10, jucin, lemon H2o, yoga/sweat, colloidal slvr, colonics/cleansing, infrared sauna-

Girlie
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   Posted 5/21/2018 10:15 PM (GMT -6)   
What in particular are you going to use for cysts?

I take 2 tsp xylitol and 500 mg lactoferrin for biofilms 7 days per month
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added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
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Y o g i
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   Posted 5/21/2018 10:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Girlie,

Do they work? I've never heard of those. I was just thinking about the ones I'm aware of: Nattikonase, Serrapeptase, Lumbrokinase. I'm really trying to see if I could accomplish the same effect as that nasty antibiotic ......


On another note: are proteolytic enzymes even worthwhile? I thought they would have biofilm busting value due to the enzymes.
L o v e life/healed! Train Wreck: Oct 2012; cd-57: 29. April 2013 diagnosed. MTHRF x2. 6 Mths of Mino, Omnicef & Tinidazole. Factive for Bart (2 mths). Serrepeptase 12,000 2x daily 2bust cysts, Antitox, med. oregano oil, olive leaf oil, A-Bart, Cumunda, bnderal, cinnm bark, chorella, NAC, milk thistle, co-Q10, jucin, lemon H2o, yoga/sweat, colloidal slvr, colonics/cleansing, infrared sauna-

Girlie
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   Posted 5/21/2018 10:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Y o g i said...
Girlie,

Do they work? I've never heard of those. I was just thinking about the ones I'm aware of: Nattikonase, Serrapeptase, Lumbrokinase. I'm really trying to see if I could accomplish the same effect as that nasty antibiotic ......


On another note: are proteolytic enzymes even worthwhile? I thought they would have biofilm busting value due to the enzymes.


I’m not sure if they work - not sure how anyone would know if they are actually dissolving biofilms.
I am on a full protocol of abx along with cyst busters and the biofilm treatment.

A couple years ago the serrapeptase, lumbrokinase.. etc were popular but not sure anymore .

I do take Flagyl for cysts - but only 2 days per month. Are you taking Tinidazole two days per week?
Maybe you could take it every two weeks instead.

But cyst busters are different than biofilm dissolvers.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

Girlie
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   Posted 5/21/2018 10:44 PM (GMT -6)   
I haven’t heard that proteolytic enzymes are effective for biofilms.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

Y o g i
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   Posted 5/21/2018 11:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Girlie,

So what are the abx and natural cyst busters vs those for biofilm? Regarding the proteolytic enzymes are those effective against cysts? They have pineapple extract, serrapeptase and a few other good ones in there.

I'm going to see if I can take the Tinidazole maybe every 2 weeks as opposed to 2 days each week, that's a great suggestion - it just wrecks 3 or 4 days of my week, but at the same time I want this infection GONE.

This might be TMI for all reading, but I've noticed major amounts of what appears to be biofilm like mucous exiting my body in direct correlation to taking the Tinidazole (it reminds me of how you know when you're ovulating because it comes when I wipe after going pee), have you noticed this when you take your dissolvers? I noticed "the mucous" 5 years ago when in treatment and taking the same meds but didn't make the coorelation that large blobs of biofilm are effectively being broken up from the meds and leaving my body - so when its been happening I have been hitting the oregano oil and minocycline hard. Its my theory anyway....

Thanks for responding...and hope you're getting better each day.
Sarah
L o v e life/healed! Train Wreck: Oct 2012; cd-57: 29. April 2013 diagnosed. MTHRF x2. 6 Mths of Mino, Omnicef & Tinidazole. Factive for Bart (2 mths). Serrepeptase 12,000 2x daily 2bust cysts, Antitox, med. oregano oil, olive leaf oil, A-Bart, Cumunda, bnderal, cinnm bark, chorella, NAC, milk thistle, co-Q10, jucin, lemon H2o, yoga/sweat, colloidal slvr, colonics/cleansing, infrared sauna-

Girlie
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   Posted 5/21/2018 11:57 PM (GMT -6)   
Sorry Yogi - I didn’t realize that serrapeptase and lumbrokinase were in the proteolytic enzyme group like pineapple.

So yes they used to be talked about a lot here on the forum for biofilms (not cysts)

Cyst busters- Tinidazole and Flagyl for abx. GSE for non pharma.
I don’t hear much about the GSE lately.

Biofilms - Xylitol and Lactoferrin, lumbrokinase, Sertapeptase, Nattokinase


Those are the ones I know of.

There’s probably others.

Someone mentioned recently that Rifampin is either a cyst buster or biofilm dissolver (can’t remember which)
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi
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