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eldonkey
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   Posted 5/22/2018 9:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey there folks,

Got bit by a tick 5 years ago.. bullseye rash but no symptoms until 9 months ago..Wondering about my Adrenals.. Been under alot of stree the last 9 months.. builfing a house, changed jobs a couple of times, dealing with mortgages, moving to new house, etc.. I have a feeling a good part of my brain fog and occasional lightheadedness and anxiety could be from adrenal fatigue. How can you test for this and what are some safe supplements to take to help right thr ship?

Thanks

Frank

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   Posted 5/23/2018 1:58 AM (GMT -6)   
You could test your cortisol levels with a 4 point saliva test...and also your DHEA.


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   Posted 5/23/2018 2:35 PM (GMT -6)   
ashwagandha ?

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   Posted 5/23/2018 2:50 PM (GMT -6)   
oh have you tried any MCT Oil? My brain fog was so horrible It reflected on my exams at school and everyday life.
Ever since taking MCT oil in the morning, I have noticed an incredible improvement in my memory and brain fog smile

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   Posted 5/23/2018 4:28 PM (GMT -6)   
eldonkey said...
Hey there folks,

Got bit by a tick 5 years ago.. bullseye rash but no symptoms until 9 months ago..Wondering about my Adrenals.. Been under alot of stree the last 9 months.. builfing a house, changed jobs a couple of times, dealing with mortgages, moving to new house, etc.. I have a feeling a good part of my brain fog and occasional lightheadedness and anxiety could be from adrenal fatigue. How can you test for this and what are some safe supplements to take to help right thr ship?

Thanks

Frank


Frank,

I know you're asking about adrenal fatigue, but I'm compelled to address something else I see here. Anytime someone mentions symotoms coinciding with moving to or visiting another location or anything to do with a building, my MOLD barometer goes up.

Have you come across any mold, leaks, or evidence of any water damage in your living or working locations in the last 9 months?

If so, you should be evaluated and tested fir CIRS. Dr. Shoemaker has an extensive protocol to diagnose and treat this.

eldonkey
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   Posted 5/23/2018 6:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Funny you ahould ask. We know there has been at least some mold in thr rental house we are moving out of. i saw it behind the washer. Also water spots from a slow leak in the ceiling in the LR. What are your thoughts regarding this information and my current bought if issues? Main symptoms are brainfog, feeling loopy, muscle twitches, anxiety sprinkled in woth some paranoia and a light sunburn sensation in my legs skin. I should mention also im coming off of low dose xanax .25-.5 mg per day. Been off about a week, was on for about 3-4 months.

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   Posted 5/23/2018 9:06 PM (GMT -6)   
eldonkey said...
Funny you ahould ask. We know there has been at least some mold in thr rental house we are moving out of. i saw it behind the washer. Also water spots from a slow leak in the ceiling in the LR. What are your thoughts regarding this information and my current bought if issues? Main symptoms are brainfog, feeling loopy, muscle twitches, anxiety sprinkled in woth some paranoia and a light sunburn sensation in my legs skin. I should mention also im coming off of low dose xanax .25-.5 mg per day. Been off about a week, was on for about 3-4 months.


CIRS stands for Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome caused by exposure to biotoxins such as mold, Lyme, dinoflagellates, cyanobacteria, etc.

Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker coined this term and found lab verified biomarkers related to this syndrome, including HLA-DR genetic markers.

CIRS can cause the same symptoms and systemic dysfuction as Lyme. If you have CIRS, you very likely will not get well or symptom free with Lyme treatment alone.

If you got CIRS from past mold exposure (old house), but there's no ongoing current mold exposure (new house), you can STILL have CIRS from the past mold exposure, especially if you are genetically susceptible. Your body may not be able to remove the mold toxins, and the toxins continue to get recirculated through the bile, causing a continuous loop of chronic inflammation.

The information can be found on Shoemaker's website, and there are a handful of physicians who are certified in his protocol. Look to see if there is one near you.

These are the lab tests that are done: /www.survivingmold.com/diagnosis/lab-tests

Shoemaker certified physicians: /www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/Certified-Physicians-Shoemaker-Protocol

eldonkey
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   Posted 5/23/2018 9:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the note. I do believe I have some sort of brain inflammation. I can function at work but im not 100% on my game by any stretch. Could this be causing my issues? Problem with the dr that is certified in the testing method you suggested is that it’s an NMD and not covered by insurance..

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   Posted 5/24/2018 8:40 AM (GMT -6)   
eldonkey said...
Thanks for the note. I do believe I have some sort of brain inflammation. I can function at work but im not 100% on my game by any stretch. Could this be causing my issues? Problem with the dr that is certified in the testing method you suggested is that it’s an NMD and not covered by insurance..


Yes. Most doctors who are knowledgeable and treat Lyme and/or environmental toxicity do not take insurance.

If your regular doctor would consent to running some of those tests, C4a, TGF Beta-1, and HLA-DR genetic testing would be the most indicative of mold. Those labs can be run through Labcorp. CD-57 (low) is an indirect test that can indicate Lyme.

Have you tested positive for Lyme or any coinfections?

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   Posted 5/25/2018 9:49 AM (GMT -6)   
My dr. recommended Ashwaghanda for adrenals - organic Indian brand seems to be good. I take 2 capsules once in the morning once before around 3pm otherwise it keeps me up. I didn't do any tests, but I also was under constant stress the last 9 months. I started treating about 1.5 weeks ago and my fatigue and fogginess have improved. I also take nutramedix adrenal support drops here and there, I think it helps, that wasn't recommended by my doctor I just tried it on my own and I like it. Maybe I'm overdoing it, but I've been feeling better. And, I upped my B vitamin intake.

1000Daisies
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   Posted 5/25/2018 10:02 AM (GMT -6)   
I definitely believe I have adrenal fatigue issues given my situation.
I've tried various adrenal herbals and supplements - and failed. Still trying to figure it out.

These articles may be of interest to you.
/draxe.com/3-steps-to-heal-adrenal-fatigue/
/draxe.com/adaptogenic-herbs-adaptogens/
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   Posted 5/25/2018 10:16 AM (GMT -6)   
1000Daisies said...
I definitely believe I have adrenal fatigue issues given my situation.
I've tried various adrenal herbals and supplements - and failed. Still trying to figure it out.

These articles may be of interest to you.
/draxe.com/3-steps-to-heal-adrenal-fatigue/
/draxe.com/adaptogenic-herbs-adaptogens/


Have you tried Nascent Iodine? It did a lot for adrenal fatigue and brain fog. Although I was on anti fungals and doxy at the same time, I attribute much thyroid improvement to nascent iodine. It took about 3 months of working up to and maintaining 15-20mg daily.
I also stopped ingesting bromine from bread, chlorine, and fluoride so these would not interfere with iodine uptake. The nascent form is not harsh.

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   Posted 5/25/2018 12:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Adrenal issues need some specific diagnosing and understanding before just treating them "blind".

I've written several detailed adrenal posts here in the past. Just goggle adrenal cortisol astroman in our specific goggle bar to find them.

Call it what you want, adrenal fatigue, burnout ect. but there are specific stages of it. Not to be confused with full blown Addison or Cuishings disease.

A 4 point saliva test from ZRT (do it your self) is warranted for a baseline. You can be over and under in the same day. In that case specific adaptogen herbs are best vs taking some mixed up concoction of them.
Many adaptogens level the cortisol, but some are more energizing and some are more calming.

In the case of high and low adrenals, take "high and low" herbs accordingly for that time of day. For some reason the online "fad Drs" don't mention this and you might just make yourself worse. Many gen-sings are energizing, holy basil is calming. Being overly energized will make you tired as well, but hrs later.
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eldonkey
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   Posted 5/25/2018 6:11 PM (GMT -6)   
Great feedback everyone. Thank you. The only thing I’ve been formally diagnosed with is Protomyxzoa Rheumatica or what’s called funelleis mosseasi. I was bit by a tick with the classic rash 5 years ago but have been asymptomatic up until last September. Just trying to figure out what to measure and tackle. It’s all so very complicated. So far the only script I’ve been given is doxy. 100 to 200 mg per day. I’m not consistent with it, 1 week on 1 week off. It doesn’t seem to help much and I’m concerned about long term affects..
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