Will the strength of the bee venom vary from bee to bee?
Let's say I tolerate the venom of bee #1 fairly well.
Could I still get an anaphylactic shock from bee #2,3,4 or #5?
Is it wise to carry an Epipen with you at all times just in case?
And what stinging interval would you advise for serious CNS involvement? Can I sting daily? For a month or two?
How about stinging more than once a day? Does that make any sense?
And is there a way to sting without actually killing the poor little bee?
congrats on your first sting ..the leap of faith is hard but u did it !...yes venom dose is varable by species , diet of foraging , time of year (summer ) ....Californian carniolians are pleasant compared to our native girls .. this poses a hurdle when trying to determine dosage for treatment ..i have heard cases people only using a few stings and some in mexico doing 70 bees a day...my usual for als/lyme was 20-30 per session ala charles mraz and pat wagner for ms tx , im a large human though @190#
something heavy here...
ellie holds a grudge against the teacher of hoshindo , she believes a really sick lyme patient of theirs was not brought to full dose quik enough and perished prematurely as a result . i believe its a little dogmatic to think one could know when and why "the creator" may take a life or that every human with msids needs the same dose or adjucts. i recently lost a friend/client to cancer, she chose chemo 2x over bvt , did i fail? was her choice hers ? was it ins/ pharma's, her fam or even a internal spiritual program driving her? i'll ask the guy upstairs when my number get called i guess....
as the body gets used to venom over time , reaction tones down ...however m.simics, the inventor of the venom collector reached his lifetime dosage of stings , a few seasons he was found passed out from a od . he lived -no benadryl no epi. so yes it can happen any time any way but i keep my "histamine bucket" low so there is room for venom to work .it is wise to have it near during any session !
the society and ellie believes it is systemic and has a half life of 24hrs or so excreted thru liver and kidneys .
it does tax the adrenals at first as reaction to pain and venom . buffered vitamin c 5g a day is not a option. so ellie recommends full dose 10 full stings 3x a week ....thing is bees vary , body weight , level of infection , detox pathways all vary from case to case . there was a time where i was dependent on my one daily head sting to think clearly and have energy but i did not do full dose every day. i needed the day in between to herx recover and heal although i would usually do other modalities on those days . if you want more add herbs and rife support to your 3x a week bvt .(btw wait a couple of months before trying head or extremities ) i used spine 1x a week then use my pain as a guide to roam the other 2 sessions ....she leave bees in for 15 min ...its probably done after 3-5 min
most only have 1 session per day morning or late afternoon as it may give energy at first . 1 bee on the head would stave off a oncoming headache though. kinesiology has been a flashlight in the dark lyme world for me to test dosage and bodily needs .
my teacher has been way above lobel dose for 7yrs - she is 71 and runs circle around me , ballroom dances, rides horses gardens and works . i am at almost 3 yrs -back to life mostly
( only the queen can sting repeatedly without dying )
as mentioned above, apitronic services in canada collects venom on a glass plate using electrocution of the bees ,available for injection ..it stays alive but not sure if its any more " humane ". bvt becomes a way of life ...the relationship of the bee giving its life and chi , so you may live, is ancient and sacred ...it made me want to tend hives which makes 10000s of bees
also if you would post of your experience , progress etc on the BVT threads here and or lymenet...please n thanks for posteriererity
Post Edited (bluelyme) : 6/9/2018 1:20:26 PM (GMT-6)