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Applying Tea Tree Oil to Surgical Tools Kills Biofilms

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Charlie55
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Posted 6/11/2018 5:48 PM (GMT -7)
www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5821197/Applying-tea-tree-oil-extracts-surgical-tools-kill-deadly-bugs.html

Remember hearing about patients who get a colonoscopy and then come down with an antibiotic resistant infection and die, especially the older patients. Well that's due to hopsitals not being able to sanitize their tools properly. The bacteria has evolved and developed a protective barrier to prevent the bacteria from dieing, aka biofilms. Hence biofilms with Lyme Disease!

We never had this problem disinfecting tools back in the day, just like how Lyme Disease was a lot easier to treat in the Lyme Conneticut days. I like to think that coinfections still play a role why Chronic Lyme is hard to treat, which without a doubt they are like Babesia. But remember, if you don't penetrate the biofilm to kill off the persister cells, you won't get anywhere with treating this disease, just like how the bacteria will keep coming back on surgical tools.

Has anyone used Tea Tree Oil with Lyme, curious, I never tried it. A lot of the stuff you find at the store is applied topically. I tried Stevia, which is a really good candidate for biofilms. I used Stevia with Dapsone and Pyrazinamide, had a lot of success with it. And after using Disulfiram with Stevia, I stopped relapsing when I'm off all my antibiotics with Lyme Disease.

Interesting article though, may help Lyme Patients to understand why they keep relapsing and their lyme infection keeps coming back. Just like applying bleach on surgical tools, even if you destroy 70% of the biofilms and bacteria, this "carpet" of bacteria, will keep coming back.

Interesting fact from the article "Around 550,000 fatalities each year are attributed to these biofilms in the US." I wonder how much that statistic would be increased if people who die from Lyme would be accounted for.

Post Edited (Charlie55) : 6/11/2018 6:53:41 PM (GMT-6)

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The Dude Abides
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Posted 6/11/2018 5:54 PM (GMT -7)

Charlie55 said...
Remember hearing about patients who get a colonoscopy and they come down with a infection and die, especially the older patients. Well that's due to hopsitals not being able to sanitize their tools properly. The bacteria has evolved and developed a protective barrier to prevent the bacteria from dieing, aka biofilms.

Great. My Doctor wants me to get a colonoscopy for routine screening. Now, I have this to think about.

*sigh*
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Posted 6/11/2018 6:04 PM (GMT -7)
This was also posted on Daily Mail today! Heartbreaking!!!

www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5829999/Girl-5-left-temporarily-paralyzed-unable-speak-bitten-tick.html

By the way, what's going on with that useless tick group? Meanwhile this is happening on a daily basis!

We already know why the lyme goes chronic? Numerous studies exposing persister cells and biofilms, meanwhile they have a discussion on Chronic Lyme every 3-4 months and play dumb, twiddle their thumbs... Like there's no such thing as an antibiotic resistant infection!

Depopulation? Sure seems like it!

I heard Dr. H is starting to use Disulfiram on their patients, which is great to hear. After taking the drug myself, along with Stevia, this is the best I've felt in the 7-8 years of antibiotic treatment.

Post Edited (Charlie55) : 6/11/2018 7:20:03 PM (GMT-6)

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Posted 6/11/2018 6:11 PM (GMT -7)
And those wingnuts would say: "Lyme Disease doesn't exist in Mississippi."
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The Dude Abides said...
And those wingnuts would say: "Lyme Disease doesn't exist in Mississippi."

It's heartbreaking isn't it, a lot of people don't believe in Climate Change either and a lot of scientists saying Climate Change has put Lyme Disease in overdrive!

/aeon.co/essays/how-lyme-disease-became-the-first-epidemic-of-climate-change

"Ticks snuggle into leaf litter rather than freeze in snow, reducing tick mortality but upping that of the moose"

Propaganda is so strong within the United States because these corrupt corporations that run the government now, I'm not sure where this country is head in the next 100 years.

It seems, the public really needs to be re-educated on science and the political influence of corporations and lobbyism. Too many people abiding by what their political spokesperson has to say and their pastor, rather than a scientist, things need to change!

I just hope better treatment surfaces soon for these new Lyme patients, I don't want to see them go through what I went through and those that have lost their lives!

Post Edited (Charlie55) : 6/11/2018 7:24:16 PM (GMT-6)

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Posted 6/11/2018 6:33 PM (GMT -7)

The Dude Abides said...

Charlie55 said...
Remember hearing about patients who get a colonoscopy and they come down with a infection and die, especially the older patients. Well that's due to hopsitals not being able to sanitize their tools properly. The bacteria has evolved and developed a protective barrier to prevent the bacteria from dieing, aka biofilms.

Great. My Doctor wants me to get a colonoscopy for routine screening. Now, I have this to think about.

*sigh*

I have been putting one off for five years - waiting until I feel better. Mother succumbed to colon cancer at a relatively young age.

Several years ago (10 or more years) a Dr with a radio talk show was speaking about the instruments not being sterilized properly.
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Girlie said...
I have been putting one off for five years - waiting until I feel better. Mother succumbed to colon cancer at a relatively young age.

Several years ago (10 or more years) a Dr with a radio talk show was speaking about the instruments not being sterilized properly.

I'm terribly sorry for the loss of your Mother, Girlie. I don't believe I was aware of that sad event. Indeed, she must have been pretty young, as I assume you to be relatively young, too.

Given what I've read about various preventative screenings, like most everything else, I'm on the fence. The sterilization issue only further complicates matters.

However, if one is going to have a colonoscopy, getting it sooner is probably better than later.
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Hi I’m new here and chiming in, Taking tea tree oil internally would really need some verified research. As far as I know it’s toxic if ingested. It’s a great antibacterial. It will kill toe nail infections fast. I’ve had family not pay attention to the need to dilute it. It will dissolve the toe nail. It’s been a while since I’ve done research on it so feel free to correct me if wrong.

Sorry Girlie for the loss of your mother.
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Posted 6/12/2018 12:36 AM (GMT -7)

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Girlie said...
I have been putting one off for five years - waiting until I feel better. Mother succumbed to colon cancer at a relatively young age.

Several years ago (10 or more years) a Dr with a radio talk show was speaking about the instruments not being sterilized properly.

I'm terribly sorry for the loss of your Mother, Girlie. I don't believe I was aware of that sad event. Indeed, she must have been pretty young, as I assume you to be relatively young, too.

Given what I've read about various preventative screenings, like most everything else, I'm on the fence. The sterilization issue only further complicates matters.

However, if one is going to have a colonoscopy, getting it sooner is probably better than later.

LOL - I'm not very young...(don't be fooled by my Girlie name - it's just what my husband started calling me when I WAS young)

Honestly, I'm a chicken when it comes to 'procedures'. I always think the worst will happen.
So, for the colonoscopy - (besides the Dr. finding a cancerous tumor) - I worry about perforation of the colon..which is most likely VERY rare.
Also, living in a fairly small city....and previously working at the hospital...I would probably know a few people (nurse assisting Dr., and in recovery room, the Porter...etc) - that bothers me.

The entire 'event' just stresses me out just thinking about it..not to mention the prep the day before. smhair
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Posted 6/12/2018 7:09 AM (GMT -7)
Tea tree oil is in biocidin (liposomal one is good) as well as oregano oil.
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Posted 6/12/2018 8:14 AM (GMT -7)
They do have non invasive colon screening tests. Cologuard is one my sister had. She said it was super easy and a do at home test.
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Posted 6/12/2018 8:54 AM (GMT -7)
Further consideration about Cologuard:

How Effective Is Cologuard?
/www.cologuardtest.com/meet-cologuard/how-effective-is-cologuard

"Both false positives and false negatives do occur. In a clinical study of Cologuard, 13% of people without cancer or precancer tested positive (87% specificity). Any positive should be followed by a diagnostic colonoscopy. Following a negative result, patients should continue participating in a screening program at an interval and with a method appropriate for the individual patient. Cologuard performance when used for repeat testing has not been evaluated or established."

The following article is from 2014:

A Good Alternative to Having a Colonoscopy? Maybe Not.
www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-lazarus-20140822-column.html
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Posted 6/12/2018 10:46 AM (GMT -7)

PeteZa said...
They do have non invasive colon screening tests. Cologuard is one my sister had. She said it was super easy and a do at home test.

Thanks, PeteZa. I hadn't heard of this test.

I will have to check and see if it's available in Canada.

I don't think the FIT test is as accurate - as it's measuring blood - so if there's any hemorrhoids it wouldn't be reliable.


So, checking for DNA of the cancer makes more sense.
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Girlie
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Posted 6/12/2018 10:48 AM (GMT -7)

The Dude Abides said...
Further consideration about Cologuard:

How Effective Is Cologuard?
/www.cologuardtest.com/meet-cologuard/how-effective-is-cologuard

"Both false positives and false negatives do occur. In a clinical study of Cologuard, 13% of people without cancer or precancer tested positive (87% specificity). Any positive should be followed by a diagnostic colonoscopy. Following a negative result, patients should continue participating in a screening program at an interval and with a method appropriate for the individual patient. Cologuard performance when used for repeat testing has not been evaluated or established."

The following article is from 2014:

A Good Alternative to Having a Colonoscopy? Maybe Not.
www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-lazarus-20140822-column.html

13% false positives. I'm okay with that...as it would then be followed up with a colonoscopy.
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