The science is well understood on this particular issue" ---> "You think the medical system is flawless and just to patients? You're a supporter of chrony captialism who doesn't believe in conspiracy".
I'm not implying or have said you're a supporter of chrony capitalism, I said you're out of touch with reality, suggesting you're underplaying how bad the corporate influence of medical books as well as someone like Kim Lewis.
My guess is somewhere down the line you have gone to medical school or getting a degree related to medical, maybe not, but I still think you have hope in a system that is completely broken, regardless of you saying you're retreating to a mountainside homestead. If you didn't, you wouldn't be so offended by my honestly.
Anyways I can't take these wall of texts out of context rambles any more.
If you have the same view points about
a broken system, why can't you take my honest opinions about
the system that's broken. My comments aren't out of context or off the rails, I state factual things then completely back it up with an articles.
And I'm sorry, but when you suggest that a conspiracy isn't likely, most likely a person is going to give you related articles proving how conspiracy is wide spread in this country. I've debated with a lot of people over the years, the one thing that's completely underestimated in this country is conspiracy and how influential corporations are. There's so much propaganda and so many people on Xanax to desensitize them to go one with their daily lives, everyone is living in their own little bubble and out of touch with reality.
I also know that there's people out there that have a lot of faith in the system, until they come down with Chronic Lyme Disease and they have a complete nervous breakdown because of it. Some lyme patients take years to diagnose, because a lot of patients believe what they're told form their local Infectious Disease Doctor, that the "test is accurate, lyme disease is easy to cure with doxy, and lyme disease is rare." I remember hearing about
this behind the scenes making of the Under Our Skin documentary, they were going to include the nervous breakdowns and psychiatric help, but they stripped it out, because they didn't want it to make it seem as though Lyme patients are nuts.
I don't think my answers are out of context, they are directly related to the comments you've expressed in this post. I go off on rants because of how screwed up the system really is, Lyme patients are a direct result of it. Hello, did you forget that you're on a Lyme Disease forum, where Doctors believe chronic Lyme doesn't exist and insurance companies don't pay for longterm antibiotic treatment?
Anyways I can't take these wall of texts out of context rambles any more. I tried to explain to you that persistent infectious disease and autoimmunity is not mutually exclusive because it's a well establish fact and you've drawn all kinds of other ridiculous assumptions from that. I don't care if doctors abuse those facts or organizations prey on technicalities to deny coverage. That doesn't change the facts. Autoimmune disease is not mutually exclusive with persistent infection period. Which is why Lewis's work is still relevant.
Bottom line is you have your own understanding what persistent infectious disease and autoimmunity is, the medical system's view on both of them is different, as well my own. I've pointed it how the medical system and Doctors treat autoimmunity with Lyme Disease. And then you just say I don't understand it.
Lewis's work is probably still relevant, yes, because probably treating chronic lyme with FMT can be somewhat beneficial to inflammation and autoimmunity, just like low dose naltrexone, but it's not going to cure chronic lyme disease. That was the whole premise of my arguement, that is all.
Lewis's Grant should be solely about
targeting the source of the problem, not wasting on the time on money just on bringing down inflammation and an overactive immune system. Someone else can blow money on that. Just as Willy Burgdorfer has stated, too much time and money has been wasted due on the wrong things.youtu.be/QLIWSkQdCmU?t=2m39s
And again, you said it yourself, you kill the infection, the disease will go away when the trigger is gone.
The immune system doesn't just stay turned on for no reason. There are so many redundant feedback mechanisms to shut it off when the trigger is gone. Take Guillaine-barre for example. Autoimmune disease caused by food poisoning. Food poisoning illness is actually cleared, autoimmune disease disappears.
Again, Lewis has pointed out that disulfiram will be for a acute lyme in early stages, how long he treats with it, my guess is maybe a few months seeing on how these Doctors underestimate the resiliency of a spirochete all these years and FMT will be for chronic lyme patients, aka PTLDS.
And as I stated up above, I'll be first to try FMT just for the hell of it, lol, that's if my insurance covers it. It could be beneficial for raising my immune system back to normal, even increasing T-cell count for chronic lyme patients who are in begging or middle of treatment for chronic lyme. Cure and remission is a big word and shouldn't be overused with Lyme Disease.
Post Edited (Charlie55) : 8/29/2018 5:41:15 PM (GMT-6)