Georgia Hunter said...
I would not think that bartonella would make the smell you are describing. I would consider the smell you describe to be a putrescine overload from an improper nitrogen balance. I would consider the most likely cause to be from a protozoan or a massive translocation of bacteria from the GI tract. By reducing my nitrogen intake, I was able to correct my problem that was similar to yours. Many people would consider me "normal" or "healed" although I know better.
IMO, bartonella is way down the list of things to treat to get better from Lyme or a coinfection. We should be worrying about E coli, Klebsiella, Bilophila, Prevotella, Staph, Strep, Proteus, Camylobacter, Pseudomonas, and all of the Desulfuromonas. These bacteria are majorly out of whack in Lyme Disease and are more important to healing than bartonella IMO.
Interesting... Georgia - would any of the above you mentioned be susceptible to the abx used for bart and/or Lyme?
Re: staph infection - aren’t we often “carriers” (asymptomatic) and no treatment needed ?
Dr Mozayeni would disagree - his focus is definitely on bart.
I wish it were that simple. When viewing our body as a series of chemical reactions, with enough understanding, you see that what we eat and what pathogens we kill are related. Not so much as a direct affect like Nigella, but an indirect effect. As an example, if you go out and eat a huge meal, say all you can eat, that taxes the body's ability to process the food into less toxic metabolites. We could be talking about
conjugation, methylation, sulfation, but it can be something as simple as oxidation and reduction. If you eat that huge meal, your body's ability to combat pathogens diminishes. The cellular mediated immune system IS your detoxification system and deals with pathogens as well as cellular debris. Eat the wrong foods, your ability to fight off pathogens goes down. That is often why a plant based diet is so beneficial. It's not overloaded with nitrogen and sulfur which saves valuable resources for infection fighting and they also have antimicrobial substances to help our immune response. They are a win-win, except for the taste and volume you have to eat. Many people will have a die off once going to a plant based diet and therefore don't want to do it. They claim they need their "protein" but in actuality, they are herxing.
Girlie, depending on the antibiotic, some would survive. Nothing would kill all of them but the problem is a lack of lactobacillus and bifidobacterium species. Their reduction is what allows those bacteria to get out of whack. The lactobacillus and bifido are lacking because of metabolic deficiencies. Those metabolic deficiencies can be due to increased usage by pathogens and/or from an altered GI environment coming directly from pathogens.