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Traveler, do you have a copy of your liver flush I can use?

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jabele
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Posted 8/13/2019 1:12 PM (GMT -7)
I'm interested in your liver flush but am avoiding sugar and fruit. Do you know of a version that involves more lemon vs orange juice? Also can you send detailed instructions again?

So grateful. Wrapping up a lengthy parasite cleanse which included coffee enemas and feel I still have more to go to cleanse my liver - I get very bloated on days i dont do the enemas and sometimes feel pressure in my liver area and like it doesnt empty properly wituout the support. I think I have flukes which is contributing to this.

I'd like to avoid the version thst makes you take Epsom salts bc I had issues when I tried that years ago but feel I need to do something.

I do have malic acid and chanca piddra already..thanks!
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summer16
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Posted 8/13/2019 8:03 PM (GMT -7)
Hi Janelle. Traveler hasn’t been on the forum for quite sometime. Maybe someone else will remember and chime in.
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Girlie
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Posted 8/13/2019 10:32 PM (GMT -7)
Hi jabele

I found a thread that Traveler posted in. I see she still has her email enabled...so I'm assuming she wouldn't mind getting one from you.

Here's the link to the thread - when you see her post - click on her screen name - on the left of the post and you will see her email address.


https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=4067278&g=4067323#m4067323
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
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Posted 8/16/2019 2:40 PM (GMT -7)
Jabele

I have been wondering about liver flukes myself for a long time. Even at the start of my treatment with my lyme doctor they made a general reference to parasites and treated me somewhat accordingly but they never advocated any kind of testing and only half-ass suggested someone when I asked about testing.

I also have had many negative tests for parasites both through the traditional medical and one other scam artist lab that couldn't find anything in the parasite laden samples I sent them.

I get bloating all the time, respond well to coffee enemas but they aren't enough, have been through some herbal and pharmaceutical stuff for parasites.

I wonder why my lyme doctor and no one cares to test or properly examine for parasite identification. My question for you Jabele is : have you looked at pharma meds for liver fluke? I wonder why my lyme doc never recommended triclabendazole or one of the others. It seems that liver fluke can cause cancer so I get really mad when I feel horrible and bloated and nausea and see stuff in my stool and realize no one - not even the lyme doc cares.

It would seem to me that if those of us with lyme and coinfections have parasites then it would behoove us to
1. identify the type of parasite and
2. treat and eradicate the parasite

I would like to see more threads on here discussing liver fluke and what our signs, symptoms and treatments are. There seems to be more on the internet about these liver flukes, including the strange story last year about vietnam veterans and a blood test for liver flukes.

doors12
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Posted 8/16/2019 3:34 PM (GMT -7)

doors12 said...
Jabele

I have been wondering about liver flukes myself for a long time. Even at the start of my treatment with my lyme doctor they made a general reference to parasites and treated me somewhat accordingly but they never advocated any kind of testing and only half-ass suggested someone when I asked about testing.

I also have had many negative tests for parasites both through the traditional medical and one other scam artist lab that couldn't find anything in the parasite laden samples I sent them.

I get bloating all the time, respond well to coffee enemas but they aren't enough, have been through some herbal and pharmaceutical stuff for parasites.

I wonder why my lyme doctor and no one cares to test or properly examine for parasite identification. My question for you Jabele is : have you looked at pharma meds for liver fluke? I wonder why my lyme doc never recommended triclabendazole or one of the others. It seems that liver fluke can cause cancer so I get really mad when I feel horrible and bloated and nausea and see stuff in my stool and realize no one - not even the lyme doc cares.

It would seem to me that if those of us with lyme and coinfections have parasites then it would behoove us to
1. identify the type of parasite and
2. treat and eradicate the parasite

I would like to see more threads on here discussing liver fluke and what our signs, symptoms and treatments are. There seems to be more on the internet about these liver flukes, including the strange story last year about vietnam veterans and a blood test for liver flukes.

doors12

I have liver flukes too. I only see mine when I do coffee enemas. I used to have really large ones, but now I only see small ones. I'm hoping that means I have flushed them out. I'm with you. None of my doctors have ever told my anything to do for liver flukes. Even though my ND consistently says my liver is struggling. We have done homeopathics for parasites. I can't really tolerate them. But I am about to start a new parasite herbal formula that will kill parasites and babesia. Still don't know if it will kill the liver flukes. They're a mystery to me.
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jabele
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Posted 8/17/2019 9:27 AM (GMT -7)
I think a thread on just this subject of flukes would be amazing. I too see them everytime i do enemas- despite diet, taking rxs, or herbals, they just keep on coming...its amazing to me. So you cant get triclabendazole in the states. I once bought from a doctor named dr chieu oversees but it was like $300 for a few pills and didnt rid my problem. Ive also done prazi, as well as 6 straight weeks of rxs that i bought on on AllDayChemist. Its 2 weeks of ivermectin, 2 weeks albendazole and 2 weeks alinia. I did that twice (12 weeks), and yet the bloat continues as do the flukes. I might be a tricky case in that i have addisons and have to take steroids every day which can't be helping. I recently did a 12 week stricter diet with no alcohol and hoped it would fix my issue, along with the drugs and im on week 11 and i still feel like i have this peoblem. I am feeling a bit hopeless about it and dont want to continue this diet that didnt seem to help and also made me miserable. Im debating a liver flush as an option since i read if i have these stones it could be making healing harder.
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MA10
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Posted 8/17/2019 11:00 AM (GMT -7)
My LLMD told me to do a liver and gallbladder flush, but I’ve been too scared to try it. I know it would make me really sick.
Hashimoto's, Lyme, Bartonella, Babesia, CFS, EBV exposure, CIRS/MARcONS, adrenal fatigue, heavy metals, bipolar, parasites
Currently treating with NP thyroid, Lamictal, Saphris, Lithium Carbonate, Vistaril, Propranolol, Low Dose Naltrexone 4mg, homeopathic remedies
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jabele
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Posted 8/17/2019 7:44 PM (GMT -7)
Parastites are tough too because i feel fine for a few days and then ill feel super bloated and gross. Especially around the full moons. Full moon passed and now i feel mostly normal. They are tricky buggers.

Im curious to know what others have tried that eradicated them. I feel like ive done everything but the flush so as much as i dont want to do it, if others have had success after doing just a few, id consider it
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MA10
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Posted 8/17/2019 8:32 PM (GMT -7)
I’m at a loss. I don’t know what to suggest because I’m right there with you. Have no clue how to get rid of them.
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jabele
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Posted 8/18/2019 11:40 AM (GMT -7)
I think it would be great to keep this topic alive to see who has had success eradicating flukes and what helped. Im wondering if cycling might be important. For example i did 3 mos straight with no breaks of meds and herbs and have seen on some sites they recommend weeks off to allow things to hatch so you can kill them off again. I might stop everything completely for a week or two and pick it back up around the new moon.
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