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Posted 10/18/2019 3:21 PM (GMT -7)
I have bought one and am in the process of learning to use it - a Spooky2 Generator X. While I am excited about the possible help it can provide in dealing with Lyme, EBV and co infections, I have learned the learning curve is a huge one in understanding and implementing use of the machine.

It, in my estimation, has a huge learning curve, much bigger than I anticipated. I have someone online guiding and trying to educate me on how to use it. Also, I do understand a lot of the science that goes behind it and believe it can help with treatment of all that comes with Lyme. However, right now it is more life a strife machine and frustrating me.

My daughter's boyfriend is also helping when he can. He is very adept at science, frequencies and computers. He gets the concept more than I do (I majored in both English and journalism), so that is no surprise. His understanding of how it works and learning to actually use it for treatments, along with the very nice person helping me online, will be the reason I finally can make use of it.

My point is if you are not technically strong, it may be a challenge to learn how to use the great rife technology that is involved with a rife machine. Then again, maybe it's more like I have a $1,000 machine with a 2 cent brain for it. I've read enough from others who have used rife to know it can be done and has the possibilities of achieving desired results.

Just thought a heads up for those that think a plugging it in and a handbook will get you there may be naive. I didn't think it would be that simple but was unprepared for how intricate it seems to be. But that could just be me.

Am curious about the experience others who have used rife technology had learning its use.
Posted 10/18/2019 3:47 PM (GMT -7)
That makes me so happy to hear you are getting the help with the machine that you deserve.

I don't know much about rife but I really wish you the best. I'm excited for you.
Posted 10/18/2019 4:28 PM (GMT -7)
Thanks, RainyCloud. Just thought after seeing all involved with learning to use it, a heads up on the complexities of the rife and startup was more than I thought. But, as mentioned, that could be just me. I'm looking forward to using it, whenever that might be.
Posted 10/18/2019 4:50 PM (GMT -7)
As a total technophobe who barely understands how to use a TV remote, any possible interest I might have had in rife machines has just officially ended! smile

Thanks, you've just saved me a lot of money.

Good luck with it. I really hope it makes a difference for you.
Posted 10/18/2019 5:11 PM (GMT -7)
Jova - That is only my experience. Hopefully over the weekend, others with their thoughts and experiences will chime in. Maybe check back to see the different thoughts. I get what you;re saying, but, hopefully, there will be others with a different opinion.

And I can let you know how it turns out for me. If it helps in the long run, nothing could be more wroth the tijme and effort.
Posted 10/18/2019 5:16 PM (GMT -7)

running wild said...
Jova - That is only my experience. Hopefully over the weekend, others with their thoughts and experiences will chime in. Maybe check back to see the different thoughts. I get what you;re saying, but, hopefully, there will be others with a different opinion.

And I can let you know how it turns out for me. If it helps in the long run, nothing could be more wroth the tijme and effort.

To be honest, I can't see a time where I would be in a position to buy one anyway. It's not something I have ever really considered and, if I did, it would be one of those things I tried when all else had failed. I'm not a big fan of technology and I'm hopeless with it.

I really hope it works for you though. People have been cured of Lyme using all kids of different things. There clearly isn't a magic bullet that works for everyone, so this could be the thing that finally does it for you. Fingers crossed!
Posted 10/18/2019 5:28 PM (GMT -7)
Hope whatever you do and are doing will help you. Since my kidneys have been functioning lower for so long, thought this is worth the try. I just didn't realize the extent of my ignorance with it, not that I expected it to be a plug and play.

Will eventually post an update on my experience with it. It's not trying to bad mouth it or be negative, but knowing it might take some time to learn may help someone.
Posted 10/18/2019 5:40 PM (GMT -7)
Sorry to hear you are struggling with it.

What specifically are you struggling with?
Posted 10/18/2019 6:13 PM (GMT -7)
I thought it would be super difficult to set up with all the parts but the guide is actually very helpful and makes it easy. Just set up one part a day. Mine stopped working. I have meant to contact them for ages now but it's just not worth it. Too much other stuff to do
Posted 10/18/2019 7:48 PM (GMT -7)
I was a microbiology and biophysics major so I may have some insight if you'd like. I've wanted to get a rife for a while but can't afford one. Feel free to email me with any questions. I'm not sure if I'll know them but I'm happy to help any way I can

Post Edited (Aerose91) : 10/18/2019 9:12:57 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 10/19/2019 12:19 AM (GMT -7)
Yeah I struggled with it too at first. I tried the protocol recommended by Spooky2 but it didnt really do much and I was disappointed. I am in Australia and the lyme bugs are similar but not the same so I was seriously concerned I wasn't hitting the right frequencies. I thought I had wasted my money. At the time I was electrosensitive too but I am persistent I spent hours trying to figure it all out on the computer urghh!!!
So I like you really wasn't happy with the learning curve.
I tried DNA frequencies and the effect was there but nothing life changing. I ended up going to a rife coach Margaret Munn she is on the internet. I wasn't sure about her recommendations at first but it did work. She told me how to set it up and I just did everything she said. Soon I was herxing and after a few months I felt incredible. This was my experience if you follow the Spooky2 forum there are others getting results doing it other ways. But this is what I did and it only needed one generator and got me to a better place.
Posted 10/19/2019 5:15 AM (GMT -7)

auzzie said...
Yeah I struggled with it too at first. I tried the protocol recommended by Spooky2 but it didnt really do much and I was disappointed. I am in Australia and the lyme bugs are similar but not the same so I was seriously concerned I wasn't hitting the right frequencies. I thought I had wasted my money. At the time I was electrosensitive too but I am persistent I spent hours trying to figure it all out on the computer urghh!!!
So I like you really wasn't happy with the learning curve.
I tried DNA frequencies and the effect was there but nothing life changing. I ended up going to a rife coach Margaret Munn she is on the internet. I wasn't sure about her recommendations at first but it did work. She told me how to set it up and I just did everything she said. Soon I was herxing and after a few months I felt incredible. This was my experience if you follow the Spooky2 forum there are others getting results doing it other ways. But this is what I did and it only needed one generator and got me to a better place.

Hi Auzzie,

Is that true that the bugs in Australia are slightly different?

I live in the UK, but I was bitten while in Western Australia. I'm a bit concerned that I might have a different strain of all the bacteria and this could have an effect on my treatment.

What is generally used to kill the Australian pathogens? And what coinfections can be specific to Australia?

The one thing that sets me apart from some here is that when I was bitten out there, I had the absolutely horrendous fever, but the leg I was bitten on was also swollen like you wouldn't believe. I ended up in a wheelchair for a few days because I couldn't walk on it and it was agony. I was given about 5 days of antibiotics, which cleared it up quite quickly. A few months after getting back to the UK, I started getting weird headaches and then my health deteriorated rapidly.

My worry is that, as well as the Borrelia and other infections, I might have some other infection specific to Australia that I'm not even considering. As an Aussie, does the leg swelling make you think of any Australian infections that could have caused that?
Posted 10/19/2019 5:24 AM (GMT -7)

running wild said...
. . right now it is more life a strife machine and frustrating me.

LOL!!! That’s funny. Sorry it’s been a bigger struggle than you anticipated. Glad your daughter’s boyfriend is able to help. My degree is in English, too. I’m not technically adept and even worse with science in general. What Auzzie said about a coach sounds like a good idea if other avenues don’t help enough.

That’s how I felt when I started the Buhner protocols. I bought the books, read the Q/A’s on the website, took notes, joined this forum, and still found it overwhelming and frustrating.

I’m one of those people who learn best from a live person who can answer my questions and work with me hands on. I don’t know many (any) teachers like that, though. Not free ones, anyway.
Posted 10/19/2019 7:19 AM (GMT -7)
The irony is my mom was a chemist in New York and Chicago back when there weren't a lot of women in that field (she died 4 years ago at 98). She later taught chemistry and physics. But it totally did not "take" on me. In fact, those were my worst subjects in college smile.

All of you on this board is so thoughtful and helpful to others. What a rare thing. All your thoughts, stories and ideas help. I try to jump in for others. Times, like lately, I go into a rabbit hole with all this and isolate until my thoughts get more positive.

My primary goals are to learn how to 1. treat Lyme and coinfections 2. Treat EBV 3. Help keep kidneys cleaner and overall detox. If I can get to those, then I can learn rest later. I ma thrown by what you hold, if anything, while using rife machine. The very good person helping me online showed me how to do biofeedback, and we did. I believe in this as rife machine showed candidas albicans and carpel tunnel, both of which I have. Candidas blood tested and carpal tunnel just obvious in my left arm/hand. So I do believe it catches things.

But when I did the DNA with fingernail and ran program, she said I can just go in other room or to bed and it will benefit me. That threw me, not that I am doubting her. I'm too ignorant with this to understand is the problem.

One more note: out of desperation, I started taking monolaurin about 8 days ago and am building on it to try and control EBV. It has seemed to start helping, and I always feel better the day after a bicillin shot. Hoping to add in rife as soon as possible. That may be two years from now with my lack of knowledge.

Too many people have seen improvement for this not to be real. Auzzie's story says a lot. I'm with you on having a live person, WBF. But at least when I am working with the person on internet, we can see each other through Zoom. And Aerose, I may send you a question but won't wear you out with a lot.

Hoping this thread helps other people looking at rife to see it does work for some but may take time to learn.
Posted 10/19/2019 7:39 AM (GMT -7)
Running Wild,

Do you mind sharing how much the rife and any paraphernalia that you may have bought to go with it cost? I know that’s a personal question. If you don’t want to share, that’s fine.

I honestly have never even considered rife, as it seems so foreign to me. Same with HBOT, though that is mostly for Lyme, I believe, and I don’t think borrelia is much of an issue for me. With bvt, I can at least imagine what being stung by a bee is like, LOL!!!
Posted 10/19/2019 7:44 AM (GMT -7)
So you can do biofeedback with this like what those practitioners with bioresonance machines do? You can scan yourself to determine what pathogens are there?
Sep 2016: Dx CIRS from mold
Sep 2016: Labcorp WB: IGG pos 41, 66
Nov 2016: Igenix: IGG 39 Ind, 41++, 58+ / IGM 39 Ind, 41+, 45+, 58+
Dec 2016: DNA Connexions pos Borrelia burgdorferi, Ehrlichia chaffeensis
Sx of bart and/or babs since early childhood
Sep 2009: life altering sx started
Apr 2015: full blown sx; immune system off the cliff

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Posted 10/19/2019 7:51 AM (GMT -7)
Okay so there are two modes with the machine you have - remote and contact.

Remote theoretically uses your dna to transmit the frequencies remotely. People who do htis method usually run the machine 24/7. I have had no success with remote and don't use it, so thats all I really have to say on that. It also has a scan program that uses biofeedback to scan for custom frequencies. I have had little succes with that also. I just run DNA targetted frequencies that has kicked serious ass for me.

Contact is where its at with tough infection like lyme. Tens pad and hand cylinders, are the two most commonly used contact methods. So you need to choose your program, run it, while you are using your choice of contact device such as tens pad or hand cylinder. Thats really it, don't get bogged down in all the things it can do.

For Lyme I recommend starting with the program in the Spooky database called "borrelia burgdorferi lyme". There are tons of lyme related programs but look for the program with that exact title. To the right it lists the frequencies as 432, 864, 345, 612 etc. Run that program with either the tens pads or the hand cylinders.

This short video shows how to set up the Gen X



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad_ipm0fseo

Now if dont' know how to run the program you can go to tech support here and they can do team viewere remote into your computer and actually set it up for you and show you how to do it. Go here, look at the icon on the bottom right. they are ususally there for about 10 hours a day. It will either say "leave a message" or something about support. Keep trying till someone is actually there. Ask them to do team viewer and help you run the program I just told you about.

https://www.spooky2-mall.com/product/spooky2-generatorx-essential-kit/
Posted 10/19/2019 7:55 AM (GMT -7)

WalkingbyFaith said...
So you can do biofeedback with this like what those practitioners with bioresonance machines do? You can scan yourself to determine what pathogens are there?

theoretically yes. Some have had success with it, I have not.

Instead I just get the DNA targetted freqs and run those. If I react then I know that pathogen is an issue for me, if I don't then I assume that pathogen is not a problem for me. Oddly enough I react to Lyme and all coinfections. Each frequency set is about $15. So I just view it as a $15 medical test. A bargain.

https://www.dnafrequencies.com/
Posted 10/19/2019 7:58 AM (GMT -7)

WalkingbyFaith said...
Running Wild,

Do you mind sharing how much the rife and any paraphernalia that you may have bought to go with it cost? I know that’s a personal question. If you don’t want to share, that’s fine.

I honestly have never even considered rife, as it seems so foreign to me. Same with HBOT, though that is mostly for Lyme, I believe, and I don’t think borrelia is much of an issue for me. With bvt, I can at least imagine what being stung by a bee is like, LOL!!!

Most get one of the kits. I have the plasma single generator

https://www.spooky2-mall.com/product-category/kits/
Posted 10/19/2019 8:13 AM (GMT -7)
Glad to share. The Spooky2 Generation X was $970.00. That includes shipping. I made the decision to purchase it after the doctor wanted me to buy yet another group of supplements. The cost for those were $360 for about a month, then it would be approximately $150 for a few more months. Have done that so many times. Not again.

It was hard to spend it, but I'd rather have one big hit, rather than have the naturopath and doctor continue a slow bleed, financially.
Posted 10/19/2019 11:46 AM (GMT -7)
Running wild - https://www.mja.com.au/journal/2016/205/9/does-lyme-disease-exist-australiaAustralian lyme -
There has been very little research in Australia on the unique Australian forms of Bb. No research I gather on patient care.
I got bitten on the leg and had a very big bulls eye rash. Definitely some swelling around the bite mark. At the time it took 3-4 weeks before I had unrelenting headaches and so much fatigue I could hardly stand. That was 1994 and I was living in the Blue Mountains just west of Sydney in NSW. Even though I went to all kinds of specialist no-one mentioned lyme and no one did anything more than empty my pockets They didn't know anything at all. So I persisted with detoxing and not much else. I picked up some over the years.
After about 19 years I went to a Naturopath who had a Vega diagnosis machine and she picked up 2 different varieties of Bb but didn't have a name for them. There were no co-infections.
The treatment in Australia is the same as in the States. The Doctors are few, pricey and far between and after attending various Lyme meetings around Melbourne where I live now I find there are a lot of people not getting much help from them. Many have the same co-infections you get in the States. The ticks in Australia carry other bugs,
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28403767
They call the ticks 'natures' dirty needle' for good reason. I think quite possibly I may have an unidentified infection of some sort but who knows it is only a guess.
I have over the last 4 years gotten a lot better with rifing and herbs but right now at 67 my allergies to everything are thru the roof. I have become allergic to even the lyme herbs - everything is pointing to very compromised kidney function. I would like more answers but instead I have only more questions.
What has helped is rifing, the liver flush helped I did 8 of them and picked up tremendously, detoxing helped a lot even when I was doing nothing else and herbs have helped temporarily for some time now but not so much now..
Posted 10/19/2019 12:53 PM (GMT -7)

auzzie said...
Running wild - https://www.mja.com.au/journal/2016/205/9/does-lyme-disease-exist-australiaAustralian lyme -
There has been very little research in Australia on the unique Australian forms of Bb. No research I gather on patient care.
I got bitten on the leg and had a very big bulls eye rash. Definitely some swelling around the bite mark. At the time it took 3-4 weeks before I had unrelenting headaches and so much fatigue I could hardly stand. That was 1994 and I was living in the Blue Mountains just west of Sydney in NSW. Even though I went to all kinds of specialist no-one mentioned lyme and no one did anything more than empty my pockets They didn't know anything at all. So I persisted with detoxing and not much else. I picked up some over the years.
After about 19 years I went to a Naturopath who had a Vega diagnosis machine and she picked up 2 different varieties of Bb but didn't have a name for them. There were no co-infections.
The treatment in Australia is the same as in the States. The Doctors are few, pricey and far between and after attending various Lyme meetings around Melbourne where I live now I find there are a lot of people not getting much help from them. Many have the same co-infections you get in the States. The ticks in Australia carry other bugs,
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28403767
They call the ticks 'natures' dirty needle' for good reason. I think quite possibly I may have an unidentified infection of some sort but who knows it is only a guess.
I have over the last 4 years gotten a lot better with rifing and herbs but right now at 67 my allergies to everything are thru the roof. I have become allergic to even the lyme herbs - everything is pointing to very compromised kidney function. I would like more answers but instead I have only more questions.
What has helped is rifing, the liver flush helped I did 8 of them and picked up tremendously, detoxing helped a lot even when I was doing nothing else and herbs have helped temporarily for some time now but not so much now..

G'day Auzzie,

This is interesting. I have been researching infections specific to Australia and haven't had much luck. There are a few, but the symptoms don't quite fit.

When I was bitten by whatever it was that got me, I had a fever like you wouldn't believe and my leg was swollen like a balloon. I mean, it was badly swollen! Mainly the lower half and my foot. No rash though. The fever was horrendous. I was sweating so much it was like I'd just stepped out of a bath! My whole body was absolutely pouring with sweat. It cleared up very quickly with a very short course of an antibiotic. I have no idea what it was the doctor gave me. I just remember he didn't seem overly bothered or concerned, but if Lyme is barely acknowledged out there like it is everywhere else that isn't really a surprise.

I also have a tick bite scar on the same leg, but I don't think it is related. The bite in WA was on my right foot and the tick bite is on my lower right leg. It looks like I've been bitten and infected more than once and I have no idea what got me in Australia. There is no doubting that I fell ill soon after returning to the UK though, so it definitely is part of the cause.

It really does sound like the Aussies are just as clueless as us poms when it comes to this. I sometimes wonder how long I have had this. I lived in Australia for a couple of years as a kid and I believe I was quite ill at some point when we lived there, so I could have been infected with something most of my life without knowing it.

I wish you well and hope you can regain full health mate.
Posted 10/19/2019 1:42 PM (GMT -7)
Jova - It isn't just Aussies. Took 11 years for me to get a diagnosis after seeing doctor after doctor and being told it is in my head. Many similar stories on this forum. That is why I decided to try rife- there has to be an answer to putting it in some form of remission. Hope you get answers

auzzie - Have you had kidney tests? Creatinine levels to see where your GFR is? Also, I saw on the Spooky2 where there is a kidney detox and read where one person said it helped him tremendously. Maybe it could do same as liver function did?

That is one of the things I want to do - kidney cleansing. That is why I want to learn use of it fast.
Posted 10/19/2019 2:03 PM (GMT -7)

running wild said...
Jova - It isn't just Aussies. Took 11 years for me to get a diagnosis after seeing doctor after doctor and being told it is in my head. Many similar stories on this forum. That is why I decided to try rife- there has to be an answer to putting it in some form of remission. Hope you get answers

auzzie - Have you had kidney tests? Creatinine levels to see where your GFR is? Also, I saw on the Spooky2 where there is a kidney detox and read where one person said it helped him tremendously. Maybe it could do same as liver function did?

That is one of the things I want to do - kidney cleansing. That is why I want to learn use of it fast.

I know it's not just the Aussies.

I spent 14 years being messed about by doctors, a neurologist, infectious disease specialists even refused to see me. I only got the diagnosis when I applied for a grant from a charity for a test at Armin Labs, which turned out positive. Even with the diagnosis all I've had is 3 weeks of doxycycline for a longstanding, chronic Lyme and coinfections case. The NHS in the UK is a joke.

I've given up on them now and I'm treating myself.
Posted 10/19/2019 2:06 PM (GMT -7)
I'm with you on your thoughts. I've written this before, but this forum has provided better help, support and guidance than any doctor or naturopath has. That has what led me to the rife.
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