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Elen8
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Posted 10/21/2019 10:38 AM (GMT -7)
Hi all,
I am Helen and i am very glad that finally i discovered this forum and i am reading so useful things about lyme. My story begins in 2015,when i had an episode of optical neuritis, 6 months after begin out of nowhere numbness, joint paint, tingling and other symptoms that come and go with severe fatigue that left me with no energy to do anything. I had the posible tests 6 MRIs, blood test for Lupus, RA even multiple myeloma. Then after 3 months the symptoms stopped and for 2 years i have no symptoms at all. And in 2018 symptoms began slightly and now i have burning pains, depression, fatigue and so other symptoms. I suspected lyme, but i live in Greece and all doctors laugh and tell me that i am crazy and that there isnt lyme in Greece. So, i sent blood on my own in BCA and i had a weak positive Elispot and CD57 is 21. The only band is positive on WB is igg 41. I have read many post here and the topic new to lyme and i am positive that i have it. I just feeling alone with this, nobody believes me even my family and in Greece we havent LLMD. I just want to tell my story and that i am afraid i couldnt handle it without help or a proper doctor. So this thought makes me feel even more depressed. Reading our stories is very helpful and having other people are and feel the same situation makes me feel i am not the only one. Thank you and if someone wants to say or ask something, i would be glad to hear.
P. S Sorry if my English isnt so well, i have been talking for ages

Post Edited (Elen8) : 10/21/2019 11:42:33 AM (GMT-6)

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JovaLyme
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Posted 10/21/2019 10:53 AM (GMT -7)
Hi Helen,

It seems quite clear that you have Lyme and probable coinfections.

Your CD57 is very low, which indicates immune suppression and your Elispot is positive. A weak positive is still a positive.

If doctors aren't taking you seriously, you don't have much choice other than to treat yourself and buy medication online like I am doing.

You should do your research on symptoms and medications before you buy anything though. There are a lot of very knowledgeable people here who can advise you on different medications.
"So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand."

Isaiah 41:10

"For I will restore health to you and heal you of your wounds" says the Lord"

Jeremiah 30:17
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Elen8
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Posted 10/21/2019 10:58 AM (GMT -7)
Thank you so much for the answer JovaLyme,
I am starting to search and i can see from the forum the sources for herbs and supplements. I just feel unsure that i will manage it on my own, but i have to try for my health.
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JovaLyme
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Posted 10/21/2019 12:02 PM (GMT -7)

Elen8 said...
Thank you so much for the answer JovaLyme,
I am starting to search and i can see from the forum the sources for herbs and supplements. I just feel unsure that i will manage it on my own, but i have to try for my health.

You can also buy antibiotics and pharmaceutical medication online Helen.

If your symptoms are really bad, you should maybe look at antibiotics first, but herbs are an option.

If you have the money, you should get yourself tested for Bartonella and Babesia too. Armin Labs in Germany are very good.
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Posted 10/21/2019 12:46 PM (GMT -7)
If you are able to travel, then there are treatments in Germany that are promising. I'm so sorry that you are feeling so alone. People treat this in a very wide variety of ways, so explore what's available and what resonates with you.

Your English is fine, but please don't be shy regardless! No judgment here! smile
Lyme, bartonella, babesia, mycoplasma, EBV
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Elen8
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Posted 10/21/2019 1:04 PM (GMT -7)
Thank you again, my main symptom now is burning pain in right side of body 24/7 and fatigue and depression, which is better last month. I have a very good friend in UK and i am thinking travelling here otherwise i am starting with doxy.
In Greece we can buy antibiotics without a doctors prescription, so i could buy anything i want, but i know i should read first and be careful.
I am thinking that if i start doxy, maybe it doesnt help and then i think what i have to do next. (the overthinking and bad thoughts part i guess)
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Posted 10/21/2019 1:15 PM (GMT -7)

Elen8 said...
Thank you again, my main symptom now is burning pain in right side of body 24/7 and fatigue and depression, which is better last month. I have a very good friend in UK and i am thinking travelling here otherwise i am starting with doxy.
In Greece we can buy antibiotics without a doctors prescription, so i could buy anything i want, but i know i should read first and be careful.
I am thinking that if i start doxy, maybe it doesnt help and then i think what i have to do next. (the overthinking and bad thoughts part i guess)

Doxy won't clear up a long term or chronic Lyme. It might do a little bit on its own, but it won't help with the biofilms or persistent bacteria.

It's a good place to start, but you do need to look at other medications. It really would be a good idea to get tested for bartonella and babesia too, as Borrelia doesn't often travel alone.

What did your MRI scan show? Any subcortical white matter T2 flair?
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Elen8
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Posted 10/21/2019 1:22 PM (GMT -7)
Yes jovalyme i am going to send blood the next months to check for co-infections. It will help me to figure out the other symptoms and treatment options. My worst fear is being unable to get up and collapse, but i the bad thoughts and depression is part of the Lyme.
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Elen8
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Posted 10/21/2019 1:25 PM (GMT -7)
The spine mri was clear, but the brain mri show a white T2 hyperintensity yes, which i read is common in Lyme. Of course 3 or 4 neurologists said it is untypical and doesn't prove anything.
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JovaLyme
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Posted 10/21/2019 1:28 PM (GMT -7)
You definitely have Lyme and possibly bartonella in my opinion.

Your MRI is the same as mine and this was what led me to pursue the Lyme diagnosis, which turned out to be correct.

My neurologist said it was nothing also. They don't know anything at all about chronic Lyme.

Have you considered trying disulfiram? It's experimental, but some people are having great results with it.
"So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand."

Isaiah 41:10

"For I will restore health to you and heal you of your wounds" says the Lord"

Jeremiah 30:17
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Elen8
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Posted 10/21/2019 1:33 PM (GMT -7)
No i didn't read of it, i will search it. Did you use it? Have you try IV antibiotics? I am asking because i read of people using IV because Lyme is in central neurous system.
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JovaLyme
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Posted 10/21/2019 1:36 PM (GMT -7)

Elen8 said...
No i didn't read of it, i will search it. Did you use it? Have you try IV antibiotics? I am asking because i read of people using IV because Lyme is in central neurous system.

Please do some searches for disulfiram. There is a thread on this forum about it.

It's done some very good things for a lot of people and hits borrelia very hard.

I've had Lyme for at least 14 years and all I've had is 3 weeks of doxy! I am about to start disulfiram and will keep the forum updated on how I get on with it.

Are there any specialist doctors in Greece who know about Lyme?
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Elen8
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Posted 10/21/2019 1:44 PM (GMT -7)
Yes i am reading it, is very interesting. Before 4 months i visited the "top" infectious disease doctor, who told me that i have CFS and not lyme. She was living 20 years in Boston and told me i have not so hard neurological symptoms. So i asked her what treatment did she offer for lyme and said me doxy for one month. I figure it out that she will not help me at all. She saw the exams for BCA and told me it isn't lyme. Of course i am not convinced of CFS.
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JovaLyme
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Posted 10/21/2019 1:49 PM (GMT -7)

Elen8 said...
Yes i am reading it, is very interesting. Before 4 months i visited the "top" infectious disease doctor, who told me that i have CFS and not lyme. She was living 20 years in Boston and told me i have not so hard neurological symptoms. So i asked her what treatment did she offer for lyme and said me doxy for one month. I figure it out that she will not help me at all. She saw the exams for BCA and told me it isn't lyme. Of course i am not convinced of CFS.

You clearly have Lyme, so don't pay any attention to doctors who tell you that you have CFS. It's one of the many things people are commonly misdiagnosed with.

Maybe you could start by trying doxy to see if it does anything, but I would seriously think about trying disulfiram as you clearly won't find a Lyme literate doctor in Greece by the sound of it. It is exactly the same in the UK where I am.
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Elen8
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Posted 10/21/2019 2:11 PM (GMT -7)
Yes i am perfectly sure i have lyme, because all of my symptoms and the exams which is weak positive. I will try doxy and i will read for the other medicine. So, are you living in UK? Because i have friends there and i am going to ask you if it is easier to find a LLMD there.
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JovaLyme
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Posted 10/21/2019 2:28 PM (GMT -7)

Elen8 said...
Yes i am perfectly sure i have lyme, because all of my symptoms and the exams which is weak positive. I will try doxy and i will read for the other medicine. So, are you living in UK? Because i have friends there and i am going to ask you if it is easier to find a LLMD there.

Yes, I live in the UK, unfortunately! Finding a LLMD here is almost impossible unless you have a lot of money to spend.

I would read through the posts on this forum and look at medicines to treat yourself with. The forum is very quiet today and I'm surprised more people aren't replying. Use the search box to look up medicines for borrelia, bartonella and babesia.

I am starting with disulfiram and seeing what that does for me. If that doesn't clear all my symptoms I am going to add dapsone, doxy and rifampin to it, but that is a long way off for me. I have to see what disulfiram does on its own first.
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Elen8
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Posted 10/21/2019 2:34 PM (GMT -7)
Yes, i have been searching all these days and i will continue. I am hoping i will find somenthing and the challenge is that it can be suitable for me when i try it. Thank you so much for the answers, i feel better now that i am talking, is the feeling that someone has the same thing and understands you.
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JovaLyme
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Posted 10/21/2019 2:41 PM (GMT -7)

Elen8 said...
Yes, i have been searching all these days and i will continue. I am hoping i will find somenthing and the challenge is that it can be suitable for me when i try it. Thank you so much for the answers, i feel better now that i am talking, is the feeling that someone has the same thing and understands you.

You could watch the conference video that someone has posted here. It is very long but there is a lot of good information on it.

There are lots of people here who know what you are going through and they are here to help.
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Girlie
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Posted 10/21/2019 3:09 PM (GMT -7)

Elen8 said...
Thank you again, my main symptom now is burning pain in right side of body 24/7 and fatigue and depression, which is better last month. I have a very good friend in UK and i am thinking travelling here otherwise i am starting with doxy.
In Greece we can buy antibiotics without a doctors prescription, so i could buy anything i want, but i know i should read first and be careful.
I am thinking that if i start doxy, maybe it doesnt help and then i think what i have to do next. (the overthinking and bad thoughts part i guess)

You can subscribe to LLMD MR Treatlyme online treatment book.

He has several treatments for each infection (Lyme, Babesia, Bartonella)



https://www.treatlyme.net

You can also pay for an appointment via Skype.
Moderator, Lyme Forum
Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi
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JovaLyme
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Posted 10/21/2019 3:28 PM (GMT -7)
I forgot about that one Girlie.

Is that Marty Ross?
"So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand."

Isaiah 41:10

"For I will restore health to you and heal you of your wounds" says the Lord"

Jeremiah 30:17
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Girlie
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Posted 10/21/2019 4:02 PM (GMT -7)

JovaLyme said...
I forgot about that one Girlie.

Is that Marty Ross?

Yes
Moderator, Lyme Forum
Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi
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JovaLyme
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Posted 10/21/2019 5:14 PM (GMT -7)
I quite like Marty Ross. Seems like a nice guy and knows his stuff.

I might sign up myself. I've got absolutely no help from medical professionals at all.
"So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand."

Isaiah 41:10

"For I will restore health to you and heal you of your wounds" says the Lord"

Jeremiah 30:17
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