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9to5
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Posted 8/21/2022 7:01 PM (GMT -8)
Hi,

I have been on ABX for years until my LLMD stopped it. Well 5 years later or more I have been diagnosed with Schizophrenia and in and out of institutions. (Been out a few years and am working.) I am on an anti psychotic and it works except for one day a week. Since January I have had Monday Stare Mode (I call it) My eyes have to stare upwards and when I close them I can't keep them shut. My eye lids kind of vibrate until I either sleep for a few minutes or relax in my car eyes shut and calm for 15 minutes. It has also just stopped on it own watching TV. Some days this happens for the entire day until I go to bed!

My psy doc prescribed Benztropine which didn't really do anything. I got sent home last week bc the brain fog and cognitive abilities were very bad and were obvious. I would answer the phone and I couldn't speak or think properly. I would use the computer program and not be able to navigate it very quickly. The boss noticed and asked me if I was ok or needed to go home. I chose home.

It has been going on a few years and is frustrating.
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Traveler
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Posted 8/23/2022 12:22 PM (GMT -8)
Hi 9to5,
Well, congratulations on being out for a few years!

I have a couple of thoughts, but I have no idea what may be driving the issues. You don't mention if you think you have tick-borne infections or not, which is what this board is about.

But, with my infections, I did experience this. It was determined after the fact, that they were small seizures for me. It was pretty scary, as they were accompanied by other seizure types as well.

I do know that this can be brought on by too much stress for me - stress being any kind of stress. My body was physically under a ton of stress, and I was under emotional/mental stress as well. Maybe that's what's happening with you as well?

I would definitely not ignore this, and I hope you find the help you need soon.
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9to5
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Posted 8/23/2022 5:33 PM (GMT -8)
Thanks Traveler, I was bit by a tick in 2006 and it was stuck in my thigh. I never tested positive for Lyme, but had all the symptoms right off. My PCP refused to give me any antibiotics because I didn't have a bulls eye rash. "This doesn't happen in NC" he said. The first weeks were terrible. Joint pain, Brain Fog, Tired all the time. I went to a walk-in clinic, got them to prescribe me some antibiotics (after a bunch of tears) and then I quit my job and moved back home. Found an LLMD after a bunch of research.

Thanks for your insight. Hope you are better now too.
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Posted 8/24/2022 6:15 PM (GMT -8)
9to5,

Welcome to the forum! I am really sorry for your suffering. I have no experience with the types of drugs you mentioned, but I thought it might be useful to mention that Bartonella has a reputation for causing severe psych symptoms. I just realized you were also the one who posted about vasculitis. Buhner said that Bartonella infects the entire vascular system.

Have you ever treated for Bartonella or only Lyme?

Also, you mentioned an episode happening at work. Have you recently changed job locations? Has there been any recent leaks or water damage in the building where you work?

You described what you called Monday stare mode that began in January. Can you think of anything specific that happened or changed around the time as far as your environment, routines, or treatments? I am not sure exactly what that means - is this something that happens on Monday but not other days?
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9to5
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Posted 8/25/2022 3:08 PM (GMT -8)
Walking by faith, thanks for the reply. It started a few years back at a different job on the weekends. It just always happens on Monday for me. I have to get up earlier on Mondays.

I have never been tested or treated for co infections. I just barely made an appointment with my former llmd. Now that I think it might be a small seizure I got my pcp a referral to a neurologist. Which on here sounds like it might not be that helpful. We'll see. I'm hoping being on antibiotics might help it.
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astroman
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Posted 8/25/2022 9:07 PM (GMT -8)
Part of the cognitive issues that these tick infections caused is sometimes they cause thyroid issues, which sometimes go away with clearing the tick Infection, and sometimes not. The more hypothyroid somebody is the more lethargic they are. Even Severely hypothyroid dogs will just stare into space for a long time. So if you haven’t had a full thyroid panel that’s something you should look into
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Lynnwood
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Posted 8/26/2022 11:40 AM (GMT -8)
It just always happens on Monday for me. I have to get up earlier on Mondays.

I would try getting up earlier on another day of the week to see if it happens then. I mention this because I am hyper sensitive to changes in my sleep! Your issue might be associated with the change in sleep rather than a lyme issue. Doesn't cost anything to test it out, right?
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9to5
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Posted 8/26/2022 6:27 PM (GMT -8)
Thanks Astroman, I will get a Thyroid Panel. I will also watch what I eat. I am not the healthiest, but when I eat right I can feel a difference.

Lynnwood, It happened to me on Friday this week too. Thanks for the suggestion I will try it.
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Posted 8/27/2022 10:39 AM (GMT -8)

9to5 said...
Hi,

I have been on ABX for years until my LLMD stopped it. Well 5 years later or more I have been diagnosed with Schizophrenia and in and out of institutions. (Been out a few years and am working.) I am on an anti psychotic and it works except for one day a week. Since January I have had Monday Stare Mode (I call it) My eyes have to stare upwards and when I close them I can't keep them shut. My eye lids kind of vibrate until I either sleep for a few minutes or relax in my car eyes shut and calm for 15 minutes. It has also just stopped on it own watching TV. Some days this happens for the entire day until I go to bed!

My psy doc prescribed Benztropine which didn't really do anything. I got sent home last week bc the brain fog and cognitive abilities were very bad and were obvious. I would answer the phone and I couldn't speak or think properly. I would use the computer program and not be able to navigate it very quickly. The boss noticed and asked me if I was ok or needed to go home. I chose home.

It has been going on a few years and is frustrating.


Not saying I didn't have trauma that contributed but I do. Along with just being diagnosed with lyme, bart and mold toxicity I was also diagnosed over the years as bipolar, anxiety , depression and now bpd (borderline personality disorder) lyme and bart can do and cause all this. Abx made it ok not a huge difference but after a week of abx (clyndamycin specifically) my brain fog was at its worse in 30 years, along with staring , zoned out ,and eyes dilated feeling , especially when I walked In supermarkets and such with those bright lights it made my staring and eyes dilate even worse. Black mold also causes the eyes to do this. Seems light light sensitivity, flourescent lights made my anxiety and paranoia worse. I've been highly suspicious over the years with anxiety depression and sometimes I'll think I'm hearing or seeing things sometimes but I'm not schizophrenic. 1 thing to do is detox loads more. Only thing that minimized the symptoms wad was detox and do natural herbs . Abx destroyed my gut and probably gave me more phsycosis than I already had to begin with. Without detoxing I had increased phsycosis and tons of dissociation. I wonder if it's in part the trauma of being told there was nothing wrong all these years and not getting the right help just put on loads of anxiety depression meds and mood stabilizers that never seemed to work. Detox and natural herbs are great.

Post Edited (MedicalNerd) : 8/27/2022 6:47:32 PM (GMT-7)

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WalkingbyFaith
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Posted 8/28/2022 7:10 AM (GMT -8)
9to5 and MedicalNerd,

I have mentioned this doctor before on here, but it was probably before either of you came. There is an alternative psychiatrist who knows mold well and is Lyme literate. She is one of the founders of ISEAI. I believe she can do phone consultations. She sounds like a good person to help those who deal with significant psych symptoms or are on psych meds, as that can complicate treatment. Her website is here. https://mypassion4health.com/about-us/

I just saw this patient’s YouTube video on this page. Very interesting. It’s the lady with short, blond hair and the video headline says EDS, MCAS, Chronic Illness. https://mypassion4health.com/
I have often wondered about EDS in myself, as I had significant joint mobility when I was young. I can’t do the things now that I could then, because I am too tight and have too much inflammation.

Post Edited (WalkingbyFaith) : 8/28/2022 8:23:26 AM (GMT-7)

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9to5
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Posted 8/29/2022 4:21 PM (GMT -8)
Thanks Walking by Faith!
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