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astroman
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Posted 10/9/2022 11:48 PM (GMT -8)
Very long post ahead!

You read that post title right. Time to throw away the empties and organize the others. Long time overdue. This is part of my stress reduction - removing clutter.

[ EDIT: Different types from the last 15 years. The regular ones were continually replaced with newer batches. They are not 15 years old LOL!! ]

I kept them in three locations: kitchen cabinets and counter top(!!), bathroom, and hallway linen closet across from bathroom.

I also kept the empties all for future reference. Now I’m recording them on paper: the name and what they’re used for, so I can throw away the empty containers and sort the ones that still have something in them.

I had supplements just about for every “body system” there is. Of course some of them did absolutely nothing that I could tell not in symptoms or lab tests. And some actually work.

There is also prescription medications- ABX for tick infections, sleep, gut issues and thyroid.

Total number even surprised me.

I really needed to reclaim my kitchen counter tired of apologizing to people when they come into my kitchen. So I finally did it.

So tonight I made a 40 inch long x 15“ high 3” deep triple shelving unit that sits on my kitchen counter pushed back to the wall under the overhead cabinets. That alone holds like 60 supplement bottles.

Of course if you were at the front door looking 27 feet back at my kitchen wall you’d think I was a gourmet chef with all these spices and seasonings.... ha ha , nope -they’re supplements.

So I finally reclaimed some well needed counterspace in my little 1950’s dinette kitchen.

What’s next: I will record the empty ones and throw them out , they are in a box on the floor right now.

Out of the remaining 60 or so on the new shelf, I use about 10 of them daily. And there’s some anxiety and stress supplements that I use as needed. And digestive supplements that I use as needed. The rest on that shelf I really don’t use right now but they’re not empty so I don’t wanna just throw them away.

So this was a small first step required to get this under control. Which I achieved tonight after working on my sink this afternoon. Wish my kitchen / dinette had a little more space so I could make some sort of custom cabinet just for these.

I think and plan storage and organizational projects in small steps at a time. I just can’t seem to get the end result right away it takes a while to figure out. And this is that first step.

**While I was doing this I thought one good way to store supplements is in the typical silverware drawer under your counter. Those are usually 18-24 inches deep by 15-16 inches wide. And some kitchens will have several narrower ones as well but they are just as deep as the counter top. Even the smallest kitchens have at least three or four of these wider ones, which one of those is usually the kitchen “junk drawer”.
Supplement bottles under 4 1/2 inches tall could easily be stored in any of these drawers with the cap facing up. And you were just right on the cap with a magic marker what they are. That is the simplest way to store these you pull the drawer out in the kitchen counter is right there to remove the contents pills as you need them put them back in the drawer close it , nobody sees it. I think this will be my long-term goal.

I think this is a good discussion topic, any other ideas let everyone know.

We’ve had post here in the past complaining about supplements all over the place(!), but I don’t ever remember reading one about actually solving the problem.

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What actually got me motivated to do this today today was a guy down the road that I was asking about kitchen faucet leaks stopped by to look at my faucet and I had to excuse myself for all the messy unorganized health supplements. Now he had lyme also , but he just went to a regular doctor and knows absolutely nothing about supplements. he’s one of these people that you just don’t wanna talk about natural medicine with. It may help him because he still has symptoms but some people just don’t respect that knowledge. That said when he looked at all my supplements on my kitchen counter, that’s when I said to myself, “yes I have to do something about this mess!”

Post Edited (astroman) : 10/14/2022 4:45:17 PM (GMT-7)

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astroman
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Posted 10/10/2022 12:03 AM (GMT -8)
I also have a Post-it note problem. They used to be on the kitchen counter and on the refrigerator.

They are reminder of the things I need to do soon and sometime in the near future.

But they certainly don’t need to be on the kitchen counter. I thought of a good place for those, I’m thinking of sticking them on a board and putting it in the slot under the counter that was the old-fashioned cutting board.

I don’t use the slide under counter cutting board because I’m a firm believer in washing cutting boards after you use them.

so like most modern people I just have a couple little cutting boards of various sizes that can easily fit in the sink to clean and then they just go in a drawer when done.

Very important Post-it notes of what needs to be done that day I actually stick on the backside of the front door or the bathroom counter, where they are less likely to be ignored.

I envy people that this can keep all this information in their head, that just adds to my anxiety and stress. It’s stressful just to try to remember it, and eventually I’ll forget it anyway so might as well write it down!
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RainyCloud
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Posted 10/10/2022 5:27 AM (GMT -8)
Yes my collection has gotten out of control as well. I don't even want to count them, it's too discouraging.
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WalkingbyFaith
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Posted 10/10/2022 7:04 AM (GMT -8)
Congratulations on getting some things accomplished.

Do you have a wall where you can mount a board for notes - cork board, dry erase, or chalkboard?

Hate to say it, but I have always heard that you shouldn’t store medicine and supplements in the kitchen because of heat and humidity. They are also supposed to be kept away from sunlight.

Since I am living in my car, I have stored much in my car, which is definitely not good. I have a wire basket in the floor in the back seat. I keep a sun visor over it to deflect the sun and hide it.
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astroman
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Posted 10/10/2022 7:39 AM (GMT -8)
I have to read up more on where people creatively put there to do list. I know there’s millions of people out there that post it notes.

when I think of something even if I need to do it in the far future, I put it down on a note. so the ones for the distant future really don’t to be displayed.

I do most of my immediate thinking in the kitchen and since that’s pretty close to the door end of the house, that’s where I like "to do list", if it’s in the hallway or my bedroom I’m gonna ignore it.

Not a whole Lotta kitchen wall space for corkboard but I could put a little one near the light switch.

The countertop wall by little shelf is pushed back against doesn’t receive sunlight.

As far as supplements in the kitchen I’ve never really had much of a problem since I don’t boil many things. When I do boil stuff I have a little countertop fan pointed at the moisture to redirect it to the rest of the house. When I’m not boiling anything the humidity gauge reads the same in my kitchen as in my bedroom.

Tidying up my supplements was sort of a steppingstone as I noted since I do things that small steps at a time.

Now that they’re sorted in an easier visual capacity, it’s easier to figure out where to put them from here. If they were stored upright in what I call a silverware drawer you could also put a couple little desiccant bags in between the supplements.

I really don’t know where else to put them were they would be accessible. Some need to be accessible (stress and energy and gut). The ones I only use occasionally could be moved. And then there's some remaining that Ive not used for years. Small house.

Post Edited (astroman) : 10/10/2022 4:59:01 PM (GMT-7)

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Quin
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Posted 10/10/2022 3:38 PM (GMT -8)
I have to laugh at this. My pile of leftover meds and supplements is similarly huge. I haven't even tried to count.

I've tried to give away some of it to people that are struggling with Lyme, but I don't even remember what all I have. It's a lot.

On top of that I really need to clean house. I have trash and mess everywhere. I just have no energy to clean it up.
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Lymie24
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Posted 10/11/2022 12:17 PM (GMT -8)
Nice work astroman!

I must admit that I am in the ilk of the the crazy professor who's office looks like chaos but they know where everything is. Because of that it is usually my wife who can't stand it and ends up organizing.

I became sick fairly young. It is insane how quickly my place became shmorgishborg of meds and supplements. If you walked into my house without anyone being there and looked into the cabinents you would think it was a home to an eighty year old.
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MedicalNerd
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Posted 10/12/2022 6:47 PM (GMT -8)

astroman said...
Very long post ahead!

You read that post title right. Time to throw away the empties and organize the others. Long time overdue. This is part of my stress reduction - removing clutter.

I kept them in three locations: kitchen cabinets and counter top(!!), bathroom, and hallway linen closet across from bathroom.

I also kept the empties all for future reference. Now I’m recording them on paper: the name and what they’re used for, so I can throw away the empty containers and sort the ones that still have something in them.

I had supplements just about for every “body system” there is. Of course some of them did absolutely nothing that I could tell not in symptoms or lab tests. And some actually work.

There is also prescription medications- ABX for tick infections, sleep, gut issues and thyroid.

Total number even surprised me.

I really needed to reclaim my kitchen counter tired of apologizing to people when they come into my kitchen. So I finally did it.

So tonight I made a 40 inch long x 15“ high 3” deep triple shelving unit that sits on my kitchen counter pushed back to the wall under the overhead cabinets. That alone holds like 60 supplement bottles.

Of course if you were at the front door looking 27 feet back at my kitchen wall you’d think I was a gourmet chef with all these spices and seasonings.... ha ha , nope -they’re supplements.

So I finally reclaimed some well needed counterspace in my little 1950’s dinette kitchen.

What’s next: I will record the empty ones and throw them out , they are in a box on the floor right now.

Out of the remaining 60 or so on the new shelf, I use about 10 of them daily. And there’s some anxiety and stress supplements that I use as needed. And digestive supplements that I use as needed. The rest on that shelf I really don’t use right now but they’re not empty so I don’t wanna just throw them away.

So this was a small first step required to get this under control. Which I achieved tonight after working on my sink this afternoon. Wish my kitchen / dinette had a little more space so I could make some sort of custom cabinet just for these.

I think and plan storage and organizational projects in small steps at a time. I just can’t seem to get the end result right away it takes a while to figure out. And this is that first step.

**While I was doing this I thought one good way to store supplements is in the typical silverware drawer under your counter. Those are usually 18-24 inches deep by 15-16 inches wide. And some kitchens will have several narrower ones as well but they are just as deep as the counter top. Even the smallest kitchens have at least three or four of these wider ones, which one of those is usually the kitchen “junk drawer”.
Supplement bottles under 4 1/2 inches tall could easily be stored in any of these drawers with the cap facing up. And you were just right on the cap with a magic marker what they are. That is the simplest way to store these you pull the drawer out in the kitchen counter is right there to remove the contents pills as you need them put them back in the drawer close it , nobody sees it. I think this will be my long-term goal.

I think this is a good discussion topic, any other ideas let everyone know.

We’ve had post here in the past complaining about supplements all over the place(!), but I don’t ever remember reading one about actually solving the problem.

————————-

What actually got me motivated to do this today today was a guy down the road that I was asking about kitchen faucet leaks stopped by to look at my faucet and I had to excuse myself for all the messy unorganized health supplements. Now he had lyme also , but he just went to a regular doctor and knows absolutely nothing about supplements. he’s one of these people that you just don’t wanna talk about natural medicine with. It may help him because he still has symptoms but some people just don’t respect that knowledge. That said when he looked at all my supplements on my kitchen counter, that’s when I said to myself, “yes I have to do something about this mess!”

I literally just did a little emptying/discarding myself. My hallway linen closet looked like block busters lol. I always said if we ever had an apocalypse, our house would be stocked and all set with medicines and such! Some of my supplements weren't even opened and were sitting on the shelf forever because I've bought and tried so many with great trial and error.
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Lynnwood
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Posted 10/13/2022 3:16 PM (GMT -8)
Did y'all look at the expiration dates on that stuff?
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astroman
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Posted 10/13/2022 3:26 PM (GMT -8)

Lynnwood said...
Did y'all look at the expiration dates on that stuff?

Im still in sorting and inventory mode and have not used any really old stuff, cause I just dont need it right now, and maybe never will.

With the exception of oils as ingredients, I assume not much can happen to dry tablets or capsules in sealed containers at dry room temperature. I opened a few, no monsters came out.

Post Edited (astroman) : 10/14/2022 12:07:49 AM (GMT-7)

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Girlie
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Posted 10/14/2022 2:08 PM (GMT -8)

Lynnwood said...
Did y'all look at the expiration dates on that stuff?

We take supplements - ie vitamins if they have recently expired.

I was also told by a pharmacist that even Pharma lasts longer than the date shown.
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Girlie
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Posted 10/14/2022 2:13 PM (GMT -8)

Lynnwood said...
Did y'all look at the expiration dates on that stuff?

It isn’t harmful to take vitamins that have expired - it just might not work as well but won’t be harmful.

https://www.verywellfit.com/is-it-safe-to-take-expired-vitamins-4165676

[Expired vitamins are safe to take. At the expiration date, the product should still contain 100% of the dietary supplement ingredients listed on the label,2 as long as it was stored under correct conditions.

After such date, those amounts can progressively decline. It’s no cause for concern over potential harm or side effects, but it does mean you may not get the specified dosage. You’re better off tossing them and replacing them with a new package.

There is one caveat to the above: If your expired vitamins have visible mold growth or a very strange odor, that’s a red flag. They may be risky to consume due to microbiological contamination. Stop taking them and dispose of them properly. “
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Girlie
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Posted 10/14/2022 2:19 PM (GMT -8)
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/vitamins-safe-expiration-date_l_5d9207d2e4b0e9e7605045fb
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Girlie
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Posted 10/14/2022 2:30 PM (GMT -8)

astroman said...
I also have a Post-it note problem. They used to be on the kitchen counter and on the refrigerator.

They are reminder of the things I need to do soon and sometime in the near future.

But they certainly don’t need to be on the kitchen counter. I thought of a good place for those, I’m thinking of sticking them on a board and putting it in the slot under the counter that was the old-fashioned cutting board.

I don’t use the slide under counter cutting board because I’m a firm believer in washing cutting boards after you use them.

so like most modern people I just have a couple little cutting boards of various sizes that can easily fit in the sink to clean and then they just go in a drawer when done.

Very important Post-it notes of what needs to be done that day I actually stick on the backside of the front door or the bathroom counter, where they are less likely to be ignored.

I envy people that this can keep all this information in their head, that just adds to my anxiety and stress. It’s stressful just to try to remember it, and eventually I’ll forget it anyway so might as well write it down!

Lol - I get the sticky notes!
I have them on my kitchen counter
One will have something I need to buy - like milk or eggs
The other one is what I need to do that day - ie dr appt… etc

Sometimes the sticky notes aren’t big enough - so I use a sheet of computer printing paper and fold it in half.

Oh - I also have notes for my husband - 😆

I find the notes help in lessening the stress - once I write it down - I don’t have to think about it all day and wondering if I forgot something
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Girlie
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Posted 10/14/2022 2:36 PM (GMT -8)
We have turntables for them:

https://www.wayfair.ca/dining/pdp/rebrilliant-sprenger-two-tier-turntable-lazy-susan-c002946325.html?piid=

We have two - one for my husbands supplements and one for mine.

They hold most of the daily supplements.
I also have a dedicated shelf in a kitchen cupboard for the extras that aren’t daily ones.

We have 80 bottles -
My husband won’t let me throw any of them out - even the ones he hasn’t taken for many months!
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astroman
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Posted 10/14/2022 3:38 PM (GMT -8)
"I find the notes help in lessening the stress - once I write it down - I don’t have to think about it all day and wondering if I forgot something"

Yes, and for me its much more efficient to write on a physical note vs making a digital note (that you need to open up) on my phone.
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Posted 10/14/2022 3:43 PM (GMT -8)

Girlie said...
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/vitamins-safe-expiration-date_l_5d9207d2e4b0e9e7605045fb

"Generally speaking, vitamins and supplements do expire, but it’s not viewed in the same way as when food expires. Expiration dates for food are put into place for public safety, as many perishable foods become harmful after they expire.

But according to Jessie Hawkins, director of the Franklin School of Integrative Health Sciences, who trains professionals on dietary supplement science, vitamins and dietary supplements don’t usually go bad in the same way, due to the preparation processes.

“They do not typically contain perishable ingredients,” Hawkins said.

Charlotte Traas, director of education and training for vitamin company New Chapter, Inc., explained that vitamins are made up of nutrients. The reason they expire isn’t because they go rancid or develop harmful bacteria, the way some foods do. “It’s because they experience nutrient degradation or breakdown,” Traas said. "
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Girlie
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Posted 10/14/2022 11:37 PM (GMT -8)
“ Yes, and for me its much more efficient to write on a physical note vs making a digital note (that you need to open up) on my phone.“

I also have notes on paper - I prefer it to having it on my phone.
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