Lymelaser NH

Has anyone ever been treated at Lyme Laser in New Hampshire or Massachusetts?? They called me and the consultation is free but it's a 12 week program that can cost between 5-7k. Not looking for anymore dead ends, if you all know what I mean lol. She explained very well that they use the laser to remove layers of biofilms and also no abx there only herbal I beleive. She says she had lyme for 14 yrs and was on abx for about 7 yrs with a dead end. Abx will just bounce right off of the biofilms which I already know they need to be broken down. What I didn't know is that they're made of fibrins and sugars(the proteins in the lyme biofilms or something of a such). They have great reviews except for like 1 bad review. I don't have that kind of money to water though either. Oppinions and all you guys know about this place pls.

Post Edited (MedicalNerd) : 3/17/2023 3:24:54 PM (GMT-8)

i would be wary of claims of any miracle cure with a $5-7k price tag - that has very little scientific basis specifically for treating Lyme disease.

these places are businesses first and foremost - and there is a pattern amongst them that goes along the lines of
"pseudoscientific sounding claim x - that only their special therapy can solve - and here are some positive reviews"

these claims are typically rather shallow in terms of scientific grounding - rarely stand up to any in depth analysis. But they are not designed to convince the scientifically or technically savvy people - they are designed to be just enough to give the majority of people with little or no scientific grounding, just enough hope to give it a go - as that's all they need to function as a business.

for instance the main selling point of their treatment is the narrative that biofilms deep in the tissues are the main problem to overcome in Lyme treatment - and that they "special laser technology" to break down these biofilms.

however, aside from whether lasers can in fact breakdown biofilms at clinically relevant frequencies and intensities - if you look at the data for light transmission through skin and tissue - its clear that very little if any light will penetrate deep into tissues - where they say the biofilms are - as most is absorbed in the first millimetre of the skin.

this seems to be a typical pattern in the market of these types of services.

Garzie said...
i would be wary of claims of any miracle cure with a $5-7k price tag - that has very little scientific basis specifically for treating Lyme disease.

these places are businesses first and foremost - and there is a pattern amongst them that goes along the lines of
"pseudoscientific sounding claim x - that only their special therapy can solve - and here are some positive reviews"

these claims are typically rather shallow in terms of scientific grounding - rarely stand up to any in depth analysis. But they are not designed to convince the scientifically or technically savvy people - they are designed to be just enough to give the majority of people with little or no scientific grounding, just enough hope to give it a go - as that's all they need to function as a business.

for instance the main selling point of their treatment is the narrative that biofilms deep in the tissues are the main problem to overcome in Lyme treatment - and that they "special laser technology" to break down these biofilms.

however, aside from whether lasers can in fact breakdown biofilms at clinically relevant frequencies and intensities - if you look at the data for light transmission through skin and tissue - its clear that very little if any light will penetrate deep into tissues - where they say the biofilms are - as most is absorbed in the first millimetre of the skin.

this seems to be a typical pattern in the market of these types of services.

Thanks for this info! I believe it's something called a cold laser ??

MedicalNerd said...


Thanks for this info! I believe it's something called a cold laser ??

just pseudoscientific mumbo jumbo for low intensity laser light

basics here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-level_laser_therapy

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I ’m always leery of these new pseudo sciences that claim great cure rates on their website and have fake reviews and then if you ask normal people if they’ve ever tried it and nobody has.

I’ve also never taken part of chiropractic clinics that want you to sign up for a $4000 program without first getting a $40 adjustment just to see what they can do. I just don’t know how these people can sleep at night when they’re ripping off sick individuals.

This is exactly why I asked and posted this, there are many ppl who live in that area but I haven't heard of anyone trying this place. I got my hopes up a little, but guess that always happens when we hear something that sounds so amazing lol. Abx is a must for me at the moment even though my gut is screwed, because I've been so sick 25 years so something gotta give.

As far as your "gut being screwed"....have you ever tried D-Limonine?

Recent post here on it. Jarrow stopped making it but its avail on Amazon called "Orange Burps" in 1000mg gels. Swanson has it in 250mg gel, their brand. Was mostly used for gerd, but it also soothes and coats the digestive tract, not just the esophagus. Drs know nothing about it usually.

hi Flash - welcome to the forum

not many will be likely to see your question here - as its a post about a specific centre

probably best to start a new topic with

"help me find a LLMD in xxxxx" in the title - its will get more views / suggestions

if you are going DIY - buhner is a good place to start - its has helped many people

if you are considering testing - probably best to use whatever your LLMD suggests - if you are going to one - as they will typically have a preference.

if not, be aware that there are many companies out there offering testing - but not all tests are created equal - probably Igenex is the best place to start if you are in the USA

because testing is fraught with difficulties - its often helpful to test using several different methods to get a better picture of what is going on and not have to rely on a single result

astroman said...
As far as your "gut being screwed"....have you ever tried D-Limonine?

Recent post here on it. Jarrow stopped making it but its avail on Amazon called "Orange Burps" in 1000mg gels. Swanson has it in 250mg gel, their brand. Was mostly used for gerd, but it also soothes and coats the digestive tract, not just the esophagus. Drs know nothing about it usually.

I've heard about it once or twice but have never actually looked into it. Think I will look into now that you mentioned it!