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Spector5
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   Posted 2/6/2011 12:14 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi, I'm Ryan. A little back ground is im 21 and in the us army.Been deployed twice to iraq. this may sound like im on dating website but im hoping to give someone that may have an idea of whats wrong some info to take into concederation. On to my problem before i joined the military i was perfectly fine 20/20 vision and in the greatest shape at that point of my life also really full of energy and always in a good mood. it all started about halfway through my first tour in iraq i started to expeirence bad pains in my neck and back. My first thought great i have tight or pulled muscles. Well then it went to the feeling of not pulled but someone smacked me with a baseball back right on the back of my neck bone of itself. so since that day two years ago its grown from my neck and back hurting to my neck and back still have that bruised sensation and now my neck and back burn almost daily not to mention i have headaches daily now that sit right in my temples and run across the sides of my head right down to the back of my neck. with my headaches it also feels as though someone put a airbag in my head and pumped it up. I have pressure in my entire head area that stretchs to my face and pressure and tenderness behind my eyes. also after getting back from iraq like i said i was 20/20 vision sharp as a eagle and now i have 40/20 which with the vision problems makes it hard to concentrate on stuff. Also excerise makes my dizziness and pain in my areas i have mentioned worse. I have all these symptoms daily the question is how bad they are when i go to wake up. I have tryed chiropractors with some relief the day of being worked on but after waking up the next day im am just as bad. Ive tryed several pain killers and over the counter relief medication as big as ibuprofen 800mg's. Ive seen a couple army doctors but thats the problem there army doctors so they either tell me all this crap is in my head or they through 800mg ibuprofen that does nothing for me. All this has effected my life in so many ways that im loosing interest in things i use to love because im dealing with pain everysingle day with no sign of relief. Being in the army theres not much i can do for seeing other doctors so if anyone has insight on things or techniques that worked to relief symptoms it would be greatly appreciated!!!!
RYAN!!!

EvilFluorescents
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   Posted 2/6/2011 2:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Ryan,

Sorry about the pain. That sounds pretty aweful.

First off, it's not that uncommon for people in their twenties to develop migraines (it usually happens in the teens and twenties).

That being said, since the pain started out in your back and neck (and then eventually moved to include head pain), I wonder if you're really dealing with something else entirely. I.e. the head pain is actually Referred Pain or is secondary to the original injury. The rapid change in vision also seems odd.

When doctors tell you that it's in your head, that's pretty unhelpful. Just because they lack the knowledge/experience/specialty training doesn't mean it's bogus.

Did you get into any car accidents, were you close to any explosions or did you bang your back/neck while deployed or shortly before deployment? Even if a problem doesn't develop immediately after a "trauma", you can still develop a problem weeks to months later.

Being deployed in Iraq, you're exposed to some parasites/viruses that you would not be stateside. It's possible that you contracted something while in country. Getting tested for those things wouldn't be a bad idea.

It could even be something that you were exposed to pre-deployment. I know of someone who was bit by a tick and got Lyme Disease while going through basic.

Could you get yourself transfered to a medical facility for evaluation (e.g. Walter Reed)? Its going to take some insightful GP's or several specialists to get to the bottom of this.

Don't give up! Keep pushing ahead to figure this out!

Post Edited (EvilFluorescents) : 2/6/2011 1:55:13 PM (GMT-7)


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   Posted 2/6/2011 2:43 PM (GMT -6)   
BTW, a good place to start would be with your GP and a neurologist. From there you can be referred out to other specialists as needed.

EvilFluorescents
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   Posted 2/7/2011 11:00 AM (GMT -6)   
Was just thinking about your situation. In addition to what I suggested above, ask your doctors if this could be Cervicogenic Headache. Most of the symptoms fit (that eyesight change keeps throwing me through a loop though).

Spector5
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   Posted 2/7/2011 3:52 PM (GMT -6)   
alright thanks, ive been looking not just for answers but for someone to take me serious so it means a lot to not just have some look at you like you are crazy but actually have some ideas of what maybe wrong. A lot of my symptoms didnt come all at once its all kinda just piled up over the past 2 years. With my eye sight i first noticed the change in my vision sitting in the chow haul i looked at a neon sign thinking well that sign is pretty big and for some reason i can read, but i started to think ok maybe its just the bright colors coming off of it. so i looked over at the tv on the wall and ive never had trouble reading from a distance and i couldnt make out anything on the tv with my left eye. So about 8 months later its moved from blurred or out of focused vision to pressure and tenderness. A lot of the times ill get almost the star effect in my vision where its like you stand up to fast but ill get it for no reason. Also when i close my eyes to lay down and close my eyes i get this sensation in my eyes of pulses almost in sync with my heart beat that flash dim almost like a hold computer monitor or tv. but its very faint. im pretty sure that the reason why there is so much wrong with me is i let what started off as something small over the years just go or i have more than one thing wrong with me. I dont know its all just really fustrating to me, ive researched and researched for the past year. With some of my symptoms i found it could be anywhere from lymes disease to a severe bacterial sinus infection. I tryed doing the self check on web med but every symptom they give you is given for that one symptom instead of combining the symptoms to find a cause. So i feel like I'm wasting my time looking for answers. Once again thank you a lot and it means a lot for someone to share there ideas and knowledge with me.

Spector5
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   Posted 2/7/2011 4:01 PM (GMT -6)   
Also to answer some of your questions, as of both my tours which i am currently still on my second in iraq. I have not been in any explosions and the most traumatic accident is i hit a deer but there wasnt much impact. the only reason i can think of is at the time i was 5'5 and 140 pound soaking wet lol and carrying and wearing all my combat gear and carrying the same amount of weight as the guy next to me at 6'0 and 210. i know that took a big toll on my body. However after returning from iraq i had not done and extensive work or hard work where it put a lot of pressure on my body for about 6 months. at that time i was seeing on my own time a chiropractor/ Sports therapist. Thats where i noticed a little relief with the next and back. However like i said before it only afford some relief and it was only good for that day, by the time i would wake up i would be in just the same amount of pay. My neck and back just always feels like i have a kink in it. Through out the day my neck and back crackle and pop none stop and as well as my shoulders and lower back. Ive been trying therapeutic stretches for those target areas and excerise's with my everyday workouts but there really not hitting the areas. Also to the touch i cant trigger the sore or bruised feeling areas. Im no expert by anymeans but it feels like the bones themselfs are grinding and popping.

EvilFluorescents
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   Posted 2/7/2011 11:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Web research is difficult, because the symptoms of so many conditions overlap. You really need to see an experienced physician (or group of physicians), who can tweeze apart the symptoms, run tests and perform a differential diagnosis.

It's very interesting that the chiropractic treatments helped, even for a short time. That means your chiropractor was doing something to your spine that temporarily "corrected" at least part of your problem. I don't know what it would be. If I had to throw out a guess, I might guess your cerebrospinal fluid pressure is high or low. But again this is a wild guess, I am not a doctor and this is probably way off.

If I were in your shoes I would try to see a team of doctors. I would start out by seeing a GP and getting a referral to a neurologist and sports medicine physician. I would push to get a CT of your back and neck (maybe even a full body MRI). Probably a lumbar puncture too (if your physician doesn't believe that you have any conditions that would make it dangerous). The GP may have some ideas of what it could be and will be able to at least order blood tests to rule out viral/bacterial infections. The neurologist will be good for the nerve pain and hopefully the sports medicine physician will be able to figure out what is going on in your back and neck (where everything started).

If they can't figure it out still,don't give up. I would then move onto a pain management specialist, infectious disease specialist and/or a neuro-opthomologist. Many of us have had to fight to get our diagnosis. Be a strong self-advocate.

I'm sorry I couldn't be of more help. You have so many symptoms and it will take physicians from different disciplines to get to the bottom of this.

Don't let doctors tell you you're crazy. You're not. It's just a complicated case that most have never seen before.

Spector5
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   Posted 2/8/2011 11:27 AM (GMT -6)   
well once again thank you and all in all you have been a saint. I have an appoinment to see our patrol base physician so hopefully i can persuade him into believe all of this lol. Ill keep you posted on the outcome and if im sent in for testing.

alexkid
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   Posted 2/8/2011 1:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Spector5

Last five / six months of my life have been destroyed due to migraines, it started off with very small signs (dizziness / faint etc) then eventually to pains in my body then none stop migraines on a daily basis.

At this point it has turned into a nightmare I constantly think "whats wrong with me" I get horrific anxiety which only makes matters worse.

You need an MRI of your Brain and Neck you also need an MRA, I hope you have coverage as it gets costly. However it rules out so much,

In the meantime try to get your blood-pressure / sugar levels checked, watch out how much over-counter meds you take as it only makes the rebounds keep coming on an hourly basis.

ps. I went from being exceptionally athletic / fit to literally a sack of garbage, migraines / anxiety are a really bad mix

Spector5
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   Posted 2/9/2011 5:06 PM (GMT -6)   
the cost part isnt a big deal. Being in the army i get free health care.. buuuttt with that said you pay for what you, and seeing how i dont pay crap thats exactly what i got. We have people that went through maybe a year if that of ARMY medical training and have MAYBE a degree but 90% of the time that degree isnt even medically related all diagnosing people. So i went in and the captain pretty much after i said my bit of whats all wrong with me is that i have stressed and tense muscles. Soo thats the second time i went in for this and came out with the same results. So they gave me naproxin and of course hasnt done crap for me.. So im really looking forward to going home on leave and seeing a family doctor about this. All the captain did was listen to what i said and took into account my job in the army which is infantry. So she went on about how in my job we are on our feet all day and where 100 of pounds of gear and this and that. which i totally agree but theres no way in hell that ive had tense muscles and headaches eversingle day for the past 2 years straight and if 800mg ibuprofen wont even take the edge off of the pain not to mention it all the symptoms clearly point to something else besides tense and pulled muscles. I'm just fed up with being in pain everyday with no results no matter what i do. She also said i have bad posture, well that might be because im such pain i can barely hold my head up.

EvilFluorescents
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   Posted 2/9/2011 7:31 PM (GMT -6)   
The Captain might be onto something with regard to having too much weight on your back. That said, it's certainly not the whole picture. Other people are huffing the same weight and not having the same level of pain issues. The weight is probably exacerbating an underlying problem.

800 mg ibuprofen is good for a bit of a headache, not for the kind of pain your experiencing. I would ask for indocin (it's stronger than ibuprofen). You can also ask for an (single) injection of Toradol. I guarantee you, that request will get her attention and maybe kick your pain on it's 6 for a day or two. If you do get the Toradol, be sure to keep properly hydrated.

Cervicogenic Headache still seams to be the best fit of your symptoms. Like I said before though, the change in eyesight is throwing me.

Here is a review article that you can show the captain. Ask her to read it and then run through the manual tests that they recommend.

http://www.jaoa.org/cgi/content/full/105/4_suppl/16S

It's not optimal, but it's not a bad thing to do until you can get to your GP.

If the captain does make the diagnosis, a combination of meds and physical therapy should help.

Keep pushing ahead!

Thisismydisplayname
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   Posted 2/14/2011 4:37 PM (GMT -6)   
For what it's worth, don't give up. I had a chronic headache following a mini-stroke at age 38 - I'd had migraines for 15 or so years, this was different, an incredible, sharp pain that just NEVER went away. I couldn't think around it, couldn't sleep, couldn't eat... it was debilitating, depressing... I felt like giving up, but I couldn't because it just hurt so much, and nothing helped, none of the doctors, none of the drugs.

After months I found a neurologist to help me. He put me on meds, Topamax, that I'll probably have to be on for years to come, which is unfortunate, but the pain is gone (and my migraines are finally under control, too, a nice side benefit). The side effects were daunting in the beginning, but they went away and now life is pretty good, head-wise.

Not saying this is your answer. Just saying that there is AN answer for you. I hope you find it soon.

And thank you so much for your service.

jpjax
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   Posted 2/15/2011 7:35 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Ryan,
Hoping and praying that you find the medical help you need and deserve.
Although, what you are going through is much worse than my pain...I do know that after talking with my neuro...if we experience a trauma to our back or neck...even something slight...it may take years to show up and cause havoc.
Not much I can add...except to say thank you for your courage and doing your part to keep us safe. God Bless you.
 
I am a Viet Nam vet and spent 8 yrs in the Army so I can relate to the merry go round as far as medical treatment goes.  But push and push hard to see specialists....take Evil's advice..it has helped me to push back and not take stupid answers from the doctors. THANKS EVIL!!!!
 
I wish you luck Ryan, I really do.
 
I can not express my gratitude enough to you for doing your part to keep us safe.  Too many people take so much for granted and never stop to think what it must be like to be in a war zone, far away from home.  
  
God Speed and I hope you can find some medical professionals to treat your condition and give you your life back!.
 
Regards from Jim in Jacksonville FL.
 
 
I am not crazy, just a little unwell.

Post Edited (jpjax) : 2/15/2011 6:41:38 AM (GMT-7)

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