Novel and unusual treatment helps Multiple Sclerosis patients

Would you do a fecal transplant if it would turn out to be the cure?
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peter j
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   Posted 5/31/2011 4:30 AM (GMT -6)   
Most of the time when there's new treatments coming along, for whatever disease, I always think that it's either big pharma trying to get their stocks up, or some guy who's got his "own special herbal mix" he's selling for a thousand bucks. But this is nothing like that. It's a treatment anyone can do, it costs nothing, and it's been used for c.diff. for decades.

It's more used in Europe than the US (for c.diff.), but it's becoming more usual also in the US.

The treatment is simply transplanting gut bacteria from a health person to a person with MS.
You can read about it here (not sure if it has been discussed yet on these boards):

The treatment has also been linked to other auto immune diseases such as Parkinson's, RA, and CFS. You can read a discussion about the treatment here (full text of article is also linked to in the thread):

Quote from the original article:
"(...) also see improvements in symptoms of their other diseases, including Parkinson's, multiple sclerosis (MS), chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) and rheumatoid arthritis. ".

Just to note. The treatment is so easy that any colonics staff could do it, and hundreds of c.diff. patients have done it in their own home (because US doctors are more reluctant working with feces than European of Australian doctors). Going to the clinic in Australia is not possible because. One: He only takes patients from Australia. Two: He only treats c.diff, and other gut diseases.

And of course, the treatment is only used on c.diff. as for now, and using it on MS would be experimental (I guess perhaps needless to say, but I thought I'd add a line about that).

Here'a a article about the treatment on a MS patient:

DUBNER: Kostopoulos hadn’t had a stroke. It turned out that he was showing some early symptoms of multiple sclerosis.

KOSTOPOULOS: This persisted for about three-and-a-half, four years after that. You know, pain, optic neuritis--they’d done CAT scans, they’d done all sorts of things. And then one particular doctor decided to get an MRI done. In the MRI after the optic neuritis, the optic nerve was playing up , you know, I was going all cloudy and couldn’t see properly out of my left eye. That particular doctor asked me to get an MRI scan, and the MRI scan came back with a whole lot of other issues with me having MS and lesions, and the whole shebang. If you saw me then you’d say you can forget this guy, he’s going nowhere.

KOSTOPOULOS: It wasn’t an overnight occurrence where I got better like within 15 seconds. But all I know now is, I’m 47 years old, I ride a custom chopper, I travel the world, I have a great time and I’m not in the bloody wheelchair, right? That’s all I know.

DUBNER: So what happened? What does a gastroenterologist in Sydney know about treating MS? Here’s a hint: it has something to do with the trillions of microorganisms that live inside your gut. It has to do with -- there’s really no easy way to say this -- it has to do with … poop.

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   Posted 5/31/2011 8:20 AM (GMT -6)   
I have seen this before. It is interesting. The other study I have read was about people drinking a concoction containing literally thousands of eggs of an internal parasites. The parasites are species specific and harmless to humans but the body doesn't know this. It wages an all out attack on these parasites and is simply too busy to kick into autoimmune over drive.

There isn't a clear understanding on autoimmune at all. It's too bad the medical community functions so poorly in this sort of cross communication situation. It's also too bad that there does seem to be this $$$$ drive for big pharma. Do they really want to cure anyone anymore?
Diagnosed with MS July 2006

I have no lesions on my soul and so I live with no limits.

peter j
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   Posted 5/31/2011 8:27 AM (GMT -6)   
Fascinating. If you can dig up a link to that study, then please post.
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