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mesea
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   Posted 11/22/2006 6:26 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Everyone,
 
I have a really personal really gross question.  I hope this doesn't offend anyone, but I need to know if this is a syptom om ms and if I can expect it to continue.  Today, I was out shopping with my sister and we had stopped for lunch.  It was a buffet so we pigged out.  As we were leaving i felt like I had to have a bowel movement really bad so I went to the restroom as fast as I could.  I made it but not in time to keep from messing up my underwear.  My question is this ms and will it happen from now on.  I already wear bladder control pads, Do I just need to give it up and start wearing Depends or something?
 
Agian sorry if this offends anyone.  Thanks!  BYE!
 
Sheila

Shashi
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   Posted 11/22/2006 7:14 PM (GMT -7)   

Hi Sheila,

I've been having this same thing for the past year.  Just within the last month, it's gotten to where almost everything I eat causes me to have to run for the bathroom.

I don't know if this is an MS thing or not.  I haven't been diagnosed with MS.  My PCP told me it was probably IBS that is causing these symptoms.


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rhondab
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   Posted 11/22/2006 7:51 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey Sheila

People with MS have been known to have probs with bladder/bowel. I''m not sure how for it goes, but i do know there are some here who've had issues with it. I've had IBS for sometime now and only lately realized some of the things that are symptoms of it. I may not have it so badly, but i've never experienced that with IBS. Maybe somehow related to something eaten recently? I'd watch to see if it happens again or becomes an ongoing prob and then call the doc. Maybe even go ahead and call the doc on Fri. I hope all this clears up and doesn't happen again. Let us know how u are.

rhonda

mesea
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   Posted 11/22/2006 8:48 PM (GMT -7)   
Rhonda & Lisa

Thanks!!Now, that you've reminded me I have been told that I have IBS. I didn't realise that it caused diarea (I know that's spelled wrong but...I've heard that really smart people can't spell. What can I say? HAHA). I thought it only caused constipation. I've eaten at that restaraunt before many times and have never had that problem. Just have to wait and hope it never happens again. Thank you guys for answering such a yucky question. Again Happy Thanksgiving

uppitycats
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   Posted 11/23/2006 6:05 AM (GMT -7)   

No question is too yucky when you need to find answers.

Bowel incontinence can be a problem with MS  -- the sudden urge to defecate, and inability to control it until you get to a toilet.  It's important that you tell your doctor that you're experiencing it.  I don't know if there are meds to control it, but he can help you develop a "bowel program" to reduce the times it happens.

I find that I have to be VERY careful to avoid any food that might have MSG in it.  That never used to bother me, but now it does.  Often buffets will "spice" their food with msg -- Accent is a common brand name -- to enhance the flavors of foods that sit around for awhile. So it may be that you've developed a sensitivity to that, like I did.  I love chinese food -- and don't dare eat at a chinese restaurant unless I'm CERTAIN that they don't use msg...and the front-line waitresses don't always know. You might ask if msg is used at the restaurant where you were eating, and if so, you might avoide that. And I am careful to "work" my bowel program, especially if I'm going to be out and away from places where I know there is quick access to a bathroom.

IBS -- irritable bowel syndrome -- is a sort of generic name for bowel difficulties, which can include both constipation and diarrhea. Often they'll alternate -- you'll be constipated, then suddenly have to defecate, and not be able to control it.

The intestine is a muscle of sorts.  Think of a snake, moving through the grass -- a sort of undulating motion, expanding and contracting along the length of the snake.  That's how the intestine looks as it passes food from the stomach down to the exit point.  If the signals from the brain are imperfect (which they often are, in folks with IBS, and/or MS, and/or several other disorders), then the contractions might stop, or slow down dramatically, and waste products will "ferment" in there for awhile.  Then move a bit again..then stop..then move...then stop...

and if you don't have a bowel movement daily, or every-other-day (or every third day) ....EVENTUALLY it'll pass to the outside -- and that's what happens: you'll get a sudden urge to defecate, race to the bathroom, and if you're REAL lucky, you'll have made it...but often you won't.

So my bowel program is generally this:  I try to have a bowel movement at least every other day.  If I can't "perform" naturally, then I use a pure glycerine suppository (non addicting, non dependent) to loosen the fecal matter. I try to visit the bathroom *at the same time* every day. I try to eat something in the morning (hard for me; nothing much is appetizing before 10 a.m.!) because that's when the body most naturally performs the task of eliminating waste. If I know I'm going out, I'll *be sure* to use the suppository to clean myself out as much as possible...and as already noted, avoid places where I suspect they might use msg.
 
(Note: the msg is just MY trigger. You might find something else. Often fatty foods can trigger this, rich foods.  Look at the triggers they talk about with IBS and see if one of them is a trigger for you..then you need to avoid that, especially when eating out.)
 
I hope you're feeling better today.
...I am not a doctor, nor health professional, and don't pretend to be one, here.....


mesea
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   Posted 11/23/2006 9:02 AM (GMT -7)   
thanks uppity u always seem to have an answer or can point us in the right direction HAPPY THANKSGIVING

Sheila

whtedragons78
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   Posted 11/23/2006 1:44 PM (GMT -7)   
most definately, sounds like me, dx'd with spactic colon in 2000. I too go from constipation to the running wildly to the restroom, never know. I have noticed that around my period things are more active a few days before, then settles down to the normal "whats gonna happen today" lol
I do take a mild softener if I havent had movement in 3 days. Just to get things going again.

Same with my mother. I also have noticed that msg especially at restrauants usually barely make it home before an attack by my stomach. Also, just the past 5 yrs i have also deveolped alergies to certain foods. Cannot eat nuts, tomatoes, and lots of fruits.

Well gotta go get the gravy done, have a great thanksgiving.
cyndi
Mother has MS, diagnosed 10 yrs ago.
Diagnosed with spastic colon in 2000.
Diagnosed with RRMS Sept 06
Provigil 100mg, Copaxone


mesea
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   Posted 11/23/2006 3:45 PM (GMT -7)   
Happy Thanksgiving cyndi I think I may have to start watching for msg or at least be prepared for what's coming. I just haven't had that experience in many years and it just caught me by surprise. I'm feeling great tho. My stomach didn't even hurt. Just the urge and there it was. Now that I know that that is something I have to prepare and watch for, I'll be ok now. How are you doing Cyndi? I'm a little tired now but I started decorating for Christmas. I used to be able to get it all done on Thanksgiving evening. Now, I have to start early in the day and I still don't get finished. Thats ok. If I don't finish oh well. I live by myself anyway so I'm the only one who knows. Have a good evening everyone!! Don't eat too much.

Bye!!!

Sheila

gettin-by
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   Posted 11/24/2006 8:43 AM (GMT -7)   
i have had this problem also i told my dr she said ms can effect anything in the body b/c it is neorological condition but, if ur lucky like me it will pass i have urine urgency once in a while some times i pee a lil i just bring change of clothes w me in my truck all time and dont tell anyone i had to change my pants one day at work and no one even notice and they were differant color but it hasnt bothered me for couple of months good luck tongue

Kimber
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   Posted 11/24/2006 5:13 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Mesea,
 
   I hope you had a wonderful Thanksgiving!  Constipation seems to be the most common bowel problem with MS, but diarrhea can occur too if you have sensitivities to certain foods or food additives.  Also if you do have IBS watch out for caffeine, one cup of coffee sends me running to the bathroom!  Take care of yourself, seems you are doing better by your last post :-)
 
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mesea
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   Posted 11/24/2006 6:49 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes Kimber I am doing better. I've felt very good for the last 3 days. It's been a while since I've had 3 days in a row that I felt good. I hope it continues. I feel more energetic and seem to be getting more done than before. it's great for now. I hope it at least last for the weekend so I can wash some clothes. Otherwise, I may have to go to work naked. While that might be a thrill for some of my co-workers it's kind of chilly. HAHA

Sheila

Kimber
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   Posted 11/24/2006 11:15 PM (GMT -7)   
Just go to work in your pj's, it's all the rage with the youngins these days LOL.  Seriously though, I hope your feeling good continues too! Take care :-)
 
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colee1979
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   Posted 11/29/2006 10:53 AM (GMT -7)   
Wow! This gets ME wondering...I also have Ulcerative Colitis. I have had this flare that will not stop...just about all of 2006. Most recently I started bleeding and having the urgent frequent BM"s...I wonder if this is to do with the MS...or JUST my UC.
 
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madlou
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   Posted 12/19/2006 9:38 AM (GMT -7)   

I had this same problem years ago. Found out it was caused by the ibuprofen I was taking for my back!  IBS it can definitely cause this problem.


frannie55
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   Posted 12/21/2006 1:13 PM (GMT -7)   

hi shiela.  my heart goes out to you as it did to myself the first time that happed in a department store and tried to do everything i could in the handicap bathroom form my wheelchair.

that was just over a year ago and it does occassionaly still happen to me, often enough i really try to empty my bowels before venturing out in public, which is hard as i do not have the strength for a 'push it out' bm.  i wear depends underware since last year and, yes, they do come in handy.  because i am not able to stand well it is hard to pull up the depends, the make the kind that snap on the side of your waist but i cannot bring myself to that point yet.

and, yes, everytime that does happen when i am home in the shower i cry like a baby.

best wishes you had a 1x experience.  frannie

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