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river watcher
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   Posted 2/27/2007 10:29 PM (GMT -6)   
I was sure that I saw on this site that some people with ms could have bowel problems.  Going too much, not enough, etc.  I saw my md today and he said there is no link between the two and now I am a little confused.  Any advise for me?  Thanks
Sherry

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   Posted 2/28/2007 4:27 AM (GMT -6)   
Sorry,  I don't know anything about this personally.  But my research certainly suggests that MS has an impact on bowel function!
 
I hope that others on  the site will have some info for you.
 
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   Posted 2/28/2007 8:50 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi river watcher!

I know my neruo did mention that a certain sign of MS could be loose bowels to the point of not making it to the bathroom (something that is a sudden urge). But this would have to be quite often occurance. I do not have this at this time that I can't say... well maybe it was the raw garlic or something that I know has always upset my tummy.

However from what I have read on the forum here, it seems more people have just the opposite and are constipated more often than not, although I do not know if that may be because of med side effects.

More will be along with their experiences I'm sure and help you a tad more than I. Good Luck.
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   Posted 2/28/2007 9:10 AM (GMT -6)   
river watcher said...
I was sure that I saw on this site that some people with ms could have bowel problems.  Going too much, not enough, etc.  I saw my md today and he said there is no link between the two and now I am a little confused.  Any advise for me?  Thanks
Sherry
Here is a link to the National Multiple Sclerosis webpage that specifically talks about bladder and bowel problems that can occur in people with MS:
 
 
You might want to read it for yourself, then send a copy along to your doctor.
 
Indeed people with MS can have bowel problems.  The intestine is a muscle, after all, and just like any other muscle group, can be affected by MS. 
 
Bowel incontinence occurs when the intestine, which passes the waste material through the body and out, doesn't function properly.  The waste material spends a long time "sitting there", and then when there is sufficient volume (and more than a typical bowel movement!), will pass uncontrollably out of the body.  People that have this problem (like me) have to be careful about when and what we eat, and I've had some time with a physical therapist developing a "bowel program" which helps me keep things moving more efficiently, so I have fewer accidents.
 
A lot of the meds we take to treat other symptoms can lead to bowel problems, too. The most notable is constipation. If we already have bladder problems and are taking meds for that, they'll reduce the amount of fluid in our bodies, and the reduction of fluid in the waste matter is what leads to constipation.
 
At any rate, the articles I linked to above can explain all this better than I can, and coming from the National MS Society itself might help convince your doctor, so you get better care!
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river watcher
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   Posted 2/28/2007 9:51 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you guys so much! I was pretty sure the last time I checked I wasn't crazy. I am going to take this link to my doc!
Sherry

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   Posted 2/28/2007 10:00 AM (GMT -6)   
sad I have the bowel problems,not being able to go sometimes
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   Posted 2/28/2007 2:49 PM (GMT -6)   
I have MS and I also have UC...which is IBD-a serious bowel problem! I definetly think the two are related
 
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Motown John
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   Posted 2/28/2007 3:02 PM (GMT -6)   
Wednesday p.m.
 
Very good afternoon:
 
You bet that bowel frequency is a "problem."
 
I went to see a urologist @ 5 years ago, he wrote me a script for Detrol.  Really works for me.
 
Not a daily pill, though.  Only for occasions where you are going to be out of the house.
 
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   Posted 2/28/2007 3:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey Sherry!

Yes, bowel and bladder probs are definitely related to ms. Many times it can be either way with different people and either one is no fun! I have IBS, dx'd a few years before my probs here began ('here' meaning...my funky nerve symptoms). It's back and forth with me and, as Uppity said, we have to be careful of what we eat and know both our surroundings and schedules! Also, on the bladder side....oftentimes it's go, go, go...then normal...then go, go, go. For me it's been just like that and the only way i realized i ever had a prob was i never used to go more than twice a day, and that was on days i'd drink a lot! So strange to think of the changes we experience! I'm glad to see u'll be taking that info to u'r doc. As Uppity said, it may help u get better care...and maybe others as well. Take care!
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   Posted 2/28/2007 4:11 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Sherry,
 
    Here's another article for you to look at, types of bowel problems related to MS and possible ways to help deal with it.  My husband has constipation problems and the meds he takes for pain makes it worse unfortunately.   Constipation is probably the most common bowel problem, but you can also get incontinence and diarrhea as well.  Good luck with your doctor, and I hope you find something to help.
 
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   Posted 2/28/2007 7:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi all,
As most of you know I have been battling major constipation issues and was diagnosed with colonic inertia and pelvic floor dysfunction.  ALL of my docs say it is the MS causing these problems.  I also have the neurogenic bladder with frequency and retention.  I am having the trial of the Interstim this Friday and if it helps (both my urologist and GI doc are wanting me to try this) I will have it implanted permanently.  So as my experience will tell you....MS does cause bowel/bladder issues.
 
 
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LadyEMT
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   Posted 3/1/2007 8:41 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi all,

If this is the case, should I mention this to the ms clinic when I go on Tues.? Thjey already know i have a bowl movement 3 times a week, but I only urinate maybe twice a day......
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shellypoo
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   Posted 3/1/2007 9:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Lady,
Yes, do mention that!  You probably need to see a urologist and have the urodynamic tests run.  It sounds like you may be retaining urine.  The bowel stuff should be mentioned if you feel it is constipation.  Every one has different bowel patterns so that may be normal for you.  Either way, mention it to your neuro.
 
Take care. :-)
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rhondab
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   Posted 3/1/2007 9:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Humm...Michelle...do u mean twice a day isn't normal?
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shellypoo
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   Posted 3/1/2007 10:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Ummm Rhonda,
NO, urinating twice a day is not normal!  Either you aren't drinking enough or you are retaining urine!  You better mention that to your doc!
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rhondab
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   Posted 3/1/2007 10:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Yeah, i will! That has been my normal for many years except for since my surg and that's when i started going a lot for awhile..then back to normal and then a lot...and that's the pattern now. I'll bring this up to my doc at my next appt. Thanks! We can always count on u for the best info!!
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MSBLESSED
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   Posted 3/3/2007 12:08 AM (GMT -6)   
I think I pee enough for everyone on here!! (can I see pee?) Anyway, my Nuerologist prescribed something for me called Ditropan (I think that's how it's spelled) and it's worked wonders! Before the meds I would go on an average day (drinking 1 large cup of cofee in the morning, 16 ounces of water, and no soda) about 15 times. I would wake up on an average about 3 tmes a night to go. Now I can go most nights without getting up. This is HUGE for me!! I wish you all the best!
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